A challenge

Ksanti said:
That's not how you should value consoles vs pc's. Very few people have PC's only to run it as a console replacement with prettier graphics, they get used as PC's as well. You have to add at least £300 or so to the budget of the desktop to account for the fact you're getting a (bleeding quick) pc in the bundle as well as the gaming grunt.

If you're looking at just a console beater with no other use for it then it'll basically be a steambox linux machine which could be cheaper, but kind of missing the point of PC gaming tbh.

Anything from a 660Ti or 7950 up should really show the consoles what's what for the most part, and if you want to go that route it only costs about £550 or so with a decent AMD CPU.

But I prefer looking at your overall purchase price:
Console c. £400
Games x6 (that's conservative but better to work at the minimum point to prove the point): £240
Boggo standard laptop for fb, work etc.: £350
Xbox Live/PS+ subscription: £30
Total: £1020

PC with 7950, AMD 8320 etc. roughly £550
Games x6 (let's say they're the same games, so still expensive but cheaper than consoles i.e. leaving out the fact that there are awesome cheap PC staples like CS:GO, TF2, League of Legends, Planetside etc.): £120
Don't need to buy a boggo laptop to cover work because you have a desktop: £0
Decent peripherals: £50
Total: £720

If you'd need a laptop regardless of having a desktop then the budget becomes a bit closer run but you've got to look at all a gaming pc offers beyond the pure gaming grunt of a console. The pc budget still has plenty of room for another monitor, speakers etc. without pushing the costs of console gaming.
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What a load of drivel. The OP has set a budget of £680, the cheaper the better, for a gaming PC to better an Xboxone. So, what laptops and the cost of games have to do with this, is beyond me.
 
Idleman said:
What a load of drivel. The OP has set a budget of £680, the cheaper the better, for a gaming PC to better an Xboxone. So, what laptops and the cost of games have to do with this, is beyond me.
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Just because it's beyond you doesn't make it drivel.

The argument is clearly which one of PC gaming and console gaming is better value for money. The classic go to method then is to just say "oh well you can't buy a PC as good as an Xbox for the cost of the Xbox" when in fact you can't look at the whole price of the system as the cost of pc gaming. You have to take out the cost of the computer you would have almost inevitably bought otherwise. Even if I didn't game I'd still need a computer, and the difference between my other uses and my gaming budget comes down solely to the cost of games and the cost of my GPU, as the rest of my rig would be fairly high end regardless due to needing it for photography work. For me, PC gaming is almost a no brainer as I play a lot of games and I already have a good base of a desktop PC to work from, so the cost of a decent GPU and the cost of games and peripherals is all that going PC costs me. For others they may still need to buy say a macbook, in which case the costs of PC gaming are a lot higher as the entire system becomes a marginal cost.

It's not immediately relevant to the challenge but it is certainly relevant to the debate.

The costs to me of going with an Xbox One would be the Console cost, the subscription costs, the cost of a wheel that's licensed to it and the extra cost of games. The costs of me going to PC gaming a couple of years ago were just the cost of the 5870 and whatever games I bought as I would have had the rest of my rig regardless for photoshop. In that sense it would be ridiculous to say that PC gaming has cost me the whatever £1400 or so I'd spent on my rig.
 
Okay guys, thought I would try again while I was a bit more awake than at silly o'clock last night. This could be a viable alternative I suppose to some of the suggestions in here. Comes in under budget by a few pounds, will give good performance, and has a full version of Windows (could choose Win 7 for a few pounds extra, still within budget)

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7870 Black Knight 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (R7870-2GD5T/OC) £161.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6350 Black Edition 3.90GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £104.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £72.00
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual CHannel Kit (PV38G213C1K) £65.99
1 x ASRock 970 Extreme3 R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £65.99
1 x Antec 302 Three Hundred Two Ultimate Gaming Case - Black £59.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 500w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020059-UK) £54.98
1 x Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache WD10EZEX - OEM ** Single Platter ** HDD £54.95
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £11.99
Total : £665.46 (includes shipping : £10.50).

 
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