Not me I'm afraid! There's at least another two of them close to here - one black like ours (DS21), one dark blue D Super.
A JRS project thread - 1968 Citroën ID19
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Not me I'm afraid! There's at least another two of them close to here - one black like ours (DS21), one dark blue D Super.
glad to see it working well, been some years since i worked on them (old clock garage woodville) but brings memories back.The stumble came back
But, some more tuning/jet replacing got me part of the way there
Just not all of the way
New carb time
No pics, because it was a swine of a job and I already needed all 8 hands from the imaginary intelligent octopus that I desperately wanted to help me. I managed most of it by myself but, sans octopus, settled for my mother sitting in the cabin holding the accelerator pedal where I needed it while I contorted myself 'twixt bonnet and wing blindly feeling out where the two screws that attach throttle linkage to carb go.
And when that didn't work, I stabbed the one in that I could get to and came back the next morning armed with one of these. They're incredibly useful for holding onto a small screw while you turn it in a couple of threads to get something started. Warmed the car up, then went for an exploratory drive up and down the A38 (Clay Mills to Toyota Island and back). Sat at ~100km/h indicated, which kept pace with traffic in the left lane. Then on the way back I tried WOT.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Not 100% yet, probably because the plugs need cleaning up again/replacing entirely. But she's definitely got a lot of the pick-up back that she used to have.
Man...
The awful thing is, no-one will remember the Clock Garage in its pomp. They barely even know it as this:
yeap used to have a small bay entered through the yard on swad road, must wonder how long the building will stand before dreaded developers move in.
went through burton the other day and was shocked seeing new developments.....until i spoke to a friend who lives on tutbury road , imex gone he says years ago lol shows how ofter i go through.
he would rather shop in ashbourne than burton now says a lot.
went through burton the other day and was shocked seeing new developments.....until i spoke to a friend who lives on tutbury road , imex gone he says years ago lol shows how ofter i go through.
he would rather shop in ashbourne than burton now says a lot.
Finally could face working on the car again after pa's passing. So I tackled a job that I'd been meaning to get to for a minute, fitting an ignition coil that's a better match for the 123 dizzy. Having done so, I drove up the road to get fuel.
On the way back, the car started to intermittently lose power. Then it died entirely. It restarted instantly, so I set off again. A few hundred yards, died again. Restarted. Couple of hundred yards. Off. Restarted.
Rinse/repeat until home. A 1min journey that took 10 minutes.
Okay. What changed? Gotta be the coil, right? Maybe it's bad. Wouldn't be the first time I've come across that. Swap back to the old one. Nope, still shutting off. But nothing else has changed. Swap back to new coil again. Still shutting off.
Huh. That fuel filter looks a bit...ah, make that a lot cruddy. Now I know full well that I don't have a spare. Why would I have a spare? That would be useful, and show foresight, and well how about that there's a spare in this garage drawer. It's almost as if I know what I'm doing in this life sometimes...
Near as I can figure I must have stirred something up in the tank when I put fuel in, and the filter copped it all. All good now. So, flushed with the success of it all, I looked up my next job - changing the hydraulic accumulator sphere.
To be continued...sometime when there's decent weather and I've taken my bravery pills.
On the way back, the car started to intermittently lose power. Then it died entirely. It restarted instantly, so I set off again. A few hundred yards, died again. Restarted. Couple of hundred yards. Off. Restarted.
Rinse/repeat until home. A 1min journey that took 10 minutes.
Okay. What changed? Gotta be the coil, right? Maybe it's bad. Wouldn't be the first time I've come across that. Swap back to the old one. Nope, still shutting off. But nothing else has changed. Swap back to new coil again. Still shutting off.
Huh. That fuel filter looks a bit...ah, make that a lot cruddy. Now I know full well that I don't have a spare. Why would I have a spare? That would be useful, and show foresight, and well how about that there's a spare in this garage drawer. It's almost as if I know what I'm doing in this life sometimes...
Near as I can figure I must have stirred something up in the tank when I put fuel in, and the filter copped it all. All good now. So, flushed with the success of it all, I looked up my next job - changing the hydraulic accumulator sphere.
To be continued...sometime when there's decent weather and I've taken my bravery pills.
*gulp*
New accumulator sphere is on its way to me, along with some LHM for topping-up purposes. Still figuring out the process for removal and reinstalling. Think I'm going to have to go from underneath. For obvious reasons I need to make sure I've got safe working practices sorted for that.
New accumulator sphere is on its way to me, along with some LHM for topping-up purposes. Still figuring out the process for removal and reinstalling. Think I'm going to have to go from underneath. For obvious reasons I need to make sure I've got safe working practices sorted for that.
Soldato
I just looked the sphere up out of curiosity and found this: https://www.classicjalopy.com/2014/10/citroen-ds-sphere-removal/
Looks like you'll need it in the air regardless. That thread sticks in my mind every time I work on my car, I'm far more careful.
Sorry about your old man. What are your plans after you've got it in a state you're happy with? Shows and weekend jollies?
Looks like you'll need it in the air regardless. That thread sticks in my mind every time I work on my car, I'm far more careful.
Sorry about your old man. What are your plans after you've got it in a state you're happy with? Shows and weekend jollies?
Oh, [insert French swearing here]...
Looks like someone in the past fitted a welded-type sphere to the accumulator - they're a bit taller than the original piece, so of course getting it back out is either a 'remove the engine' job or a 'try and remove the whole accumulator assembly off the side of the engine' job.
Not honestly certain which would be easier, but since I don't have an engine lift I can only go one way.
That's gonna add some time to the job...
Looks like someone in the past fitted a welded-type sphere to the accumulator - they're a bit taller than the original piece, so of course getting it back out is either a 'remove the engine' job or a 'try and remove the whole accumulator assembly off the side of the engine' job.
Not honestly certain which would be easier, but since I don't have an engine lift I can only go one way.
That's gonna add some time to the job...
Long time no update!
I didn't change the accumulator sphere yet because everything in hydraulic country started fully behaving itself again. And I haven't updated because honestly nothing was wrong with the car that needed any more attention that the occasional bit of soldering or crimping wouldn't fix.
Right up until I lost anything resembling fuel pressure to the carb.
Figure the fuel pump isn't pumping any more. Now, the Citroën has a nice and simple setup for this. The fuel pump is a mechanical affair, mounted to the side of the engine. And changing it should be easy, right? It's visible, not tiny, the nuts holding it on are 14mm so also reasonably chunky...
...and the front left suspension sphere makes getting a tool on them completely impossible.
Having removed the sphere (good ol' chain wrench!) I then find the steering column is also a bit close for comfort.
Running over to Toolstation later today since a) they're very local and b) I can't find my 1/4" drive extensions (3/8" and 1/2" I'm golden, no idea where my 1/4" stuff is). So, to be continued. While I'm here in fuel pump country I'll treat the car to new fuel pipework in the engine bay, and fresh spark plugs.
I didn't change the accumulator sphere yet because everything in hydraulic country started fully behaving itself again. And I haven't updated because honestly nothing was wrong with the car that needed any more attention that the occasional bit of soldering or crimping wouldn't fix.
Right up until I lost anything resembling fuel pressure to the carb.
Figure the fuel pump isn't pumping any more. Now, the Citroën has a nice and simple setup for this. The fuel pump is a mechanical affair, mounted to the side of the engine. And changing it should be easy, right? It's visible, not tiny, the nuts holding it on are 14mm so also reasonably chunky...
...and the front left suspension sphere makes getting a tool on them completely impossible.
Having removed the sphere (good ol' chain wrench!) I then find the steering column is also a bit close for comfort.
Running over to Toolstation later today since a) they're very local and b) I can't find my 1/4" drive extensions (3/8" and 1/2" I'm golden, no idea where my 1/4" stuff is). So, to be continued. While I'm here in fuel pump country I'll treat the car to new fuel pipework in the engine bay, and fresh spark plugs.
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Pics to follow, but new pump is on and pumping fuel. Marvelous concept. Doesn't half make it easier to drive with an engine that runs.
That's the room I had to work with after the suspension sphere was removed. Genuinely think it might have been easier to remove the inlet manifold...
Talking of the spheres, if you've never seen one:
One of these at each corner essentially works with a ram arm to suspend the car. Fed by hydraulic pressure built up by an engine driven pump and maintained by a pressure regulator. Inside there's a diaphragm with nitrogen gas one side, the hydraulic mineral oil on the other.
Meanwhile, I changed the plugs. Here's what I found:
Reckon this old girl might have been running a tad rich on these plugs at some point?
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Picture size improved a bit.
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Don
I find cars with running engines to be a bit of a fad TBH.
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