A single temporary average speed camera (M62 Eastbound M60 junction)

m4rkw7 said:
The M602 is 70 all the way just after you pass the M60 turn off coming down the M62 on to the M602 there's signs either side stating it's end of roadworks and back to NSL. Although if you're coming from Manchester towards Liverpool on the M602/M62 there are 50MPH signs on that side of the road for what I can tell no reason?

The M62 is NSL all the way as well as far as I know. I drive this road a lot and a month or so a go there was a sign up near that camera that's by itself saying it was not in use, that sign has now gone so I guess it is now in use.

It's just this smart motorway on the M60 that's 50 MPH average going both ways.

But to answer your question If I'm coming down the M62 and taking the M602 in to Manchester I'll stay at 70 MPH because you only pass that one average camera as all the rest are on the M60.

If I'm coming down the M62 and exiting on to the M60 I'll slow down to 50 MPH when passing it because as soon as you hit the exit slip to the M60 there's another camera on the left.

Also if you're one of the ***** that drives in the 3rd lane when the two lefts left merging to the M60 from the M62 are at a standstill at rush hour then stops stationary in the 3rd lane with your indicator on so you can push in to the 2nd lane. I hate you. The amount of times someone has just sat in a live motorway line so they can cut in..dangerous!
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*sigh*

Yet another person who can't grasp how 'merge in turn' works.
 
George Hincapie said:
*sigh*

Yet another person who can't grasp how 'merge in turn' works.
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he's not talking about merge in turn though; he's talking about someone stopping in lane 3 to try and get into lane 2. the merging in turn happened ages ago and lane 3 is for traffic going ahead only. when you refer to someone not knowing how 'merge in turn' works it's usually when there's one distinctly empty lane that people (correctly) go down to get to the head of the merge. In this case he's talking about when both lanes are full and ther'es no merging in turn going to be happening.

I used to drive down the M602 from manc' to get to the M60 and there's a similar problem there with people stopping in lane 2 to try and push into lane 1. The traffic is very bad there and there's an accident just about every day as a result. I've stopped going that way now as it's so bad.

I only tend to go thatway now if I leave work late so that's it's quiet, but the other night I had Ikea on my mind and just forgot to take the exit so continued onto what turns into the M62 to liverpool (ikea!) - just after the M60 junction there's 50MPH signs with average speedcheck signs and I've gone flying through them twice now but there's no cameras and there's only one sign iirc. it looks like an error to me but I assume this is the patch of road you're talking about.

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is it here?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4D61Mr8_oWy8Zfd8-whbnw!2e0
or the other direction?
 
Django x2 said:
Average speed cameras on the A34 are a complete joke. I often believe it costs more to establish the infrastructure for said cameras than any highways contractor is willing to fork out and therefore they are there purely as a deterrent rather than a live system.

Add that in with the fact that since the weather has improved. Local tree foliage immediately covers the lenses of all but 1 set of the cameras, and I can't help feeling a degree of annoyance
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I am hoping you can help me. I drove through these cameras this morning and was going too fast. I did slow down for the second and third ones. Are they not working? They seem to be quite hidden. Worried I have got a ticket now.

Ruth
 
R B Customs said:
he's not talking about merge in turn though; he's talking about someone stopping in lane 3 to try and get into lane 2. the merging in turn happened ages ago and lane 3 is for traffic going ahead only. when you refer to someone not knowing how 'merge in turn' works it's usually when there's one distinctly empty lane that people (correctly) go down to get to the head of the merge. In this case he's talking about when both lanes are full and ther'es no merging in turn going to be happening.

I used to drive down the M602 from manc' to get to the M60 and there's a similar problem there with people stopping in lane 2 to try and push into lane 1. The traffic is very bad there and there's an accident just about every day as a result. I've stopped going that way now as it's so bad.

I only tend to go thatway now if I leave work late so that's it's quiet, but the other night I had Ikea on my mind and just forgot to take the exit so continued onto what turns into the M62 to liverpool (ikea!) - just after the M60 junction there's 50MPH signs with average speedcheck signs and I've gone flying through them twice now but there's no cameras and there's only one sign iirc. it looks like an error to me but I assume this is the patch of road you're talking about.

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is it here?
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s4D61Mr8_oWy8Zfd8-whbnw!2e0
or the other direction?
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Yep that's the spot, in both directions :)
 
Ruth.Wardell said:
I am hoping you can help me. I drove through these cameras this morning and was going too fast. I did slow down for the second and third ones. Are they not working? They seem to be quite hidden. Worried I have got a ticket now.

Ruth
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If you speeded past the first you need to slow right down (below 50mph) in order to get your average speed down for the second one.

50mph over 1mile means you should cover it in 72seconds

Anal example:

If you were going 70mph for the first 0.5mile you'd cover it in 25.7seconds

So you'd have to cover the other 0.5mile in 46.3seconds in order to be at a 50mph average (72seconds) which means you'd have to travel at 38.9mph for that remaining 0.5mile to get under.

That's very accurate obviously and doesn't include time to slow your speed etc and in reality there is plenty of leeway I imagine but you see what I mean.

They don't flash or anything. All they do is read your numberplate and log the time you passed each camera and then it's worked out from that.
 
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Is it definitely logged between each camera and not for the whole distance? I pretty often get on the M60 where they start and go all the way through and come off where they end does it not calculate your speed from starting and then finishing?
 
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