Abolishing the offside rule? Thoughts?

well the current rule doesnt work, im not sure why more of you havent picked this up.. unless you have severely bog eyed linesman, they cannot possibly be looking in 2 places at the same time, thus can never make the right decision without it being an absolute judgement call...

go to ice hockey rules, its implementable and would actually make sense...
 
Won't happen, would ruin the sport. It's just Blatter trying to get in the press again, no doubt hear something about multiball in a few weeks.
 
Daft idea to abolish it completely, but having the ball cross a line before a player is allowed to seems interesting.

Still don't think it would work, but interesting nonetheless.
 
Blatter is off his **** (jugs) if he thinks this'll happen. It just goes to show how much he knows if this really is his latest idea.

Maybe it's a secret ploy to get more women into footy :D
 
There are two main areas of controversy in football referee decisions:

1: Offside
2: Fouls (consistency with bookings/reds and accuracy)
3: Much less often but still happens; did it go over the line or not.

All three above points could be solved with the use of cameras and a system similar to that in Tennis where the players have "challenges" to review "hawk eye" footage (camera footage) to aid decisions. Obviously this comes with the added drawback of making the game very stop-start depending on how many said challenges each team gets and how this is implemented.

Something does need to be done as games are being won and lost at the moment week in week out due to inconsistent refereeing.

Other sports such as cricket/tennis/rugby/basketball/hockey/baseball/NASCAR use instant replay footage to assist. Why can't the world's most watched football league?
 
mmj_uk said:
What football needs is a couple of challenges per match like in tennis/NFL etc. where managers can contest what they see as poor key decisions.
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Which would involve the introduction of video technology, which, it seems, Blatter will be opposed to until he dies.
 
Shamikebab said:
How would it work though? Player is blown as offside, play stops and they appeal, find out he was onside then....?
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Maybe it could involve a new style of play where they could spend a reasonable time still attempting to score after the linesman flag/refs whistle? If they do score they would obviously appeal. If they don't...no need I guess. Maybe a team should only be allowed a couple of challenges per game? Maybe only for goals scored. I don't know.
 
jaybee said:
There are two main areas of controversy in football referee decisions:

1: Offside
2: Fouls (consistency with bookings/reds and accuracy)
3: Much less often but still happens; did it go over the line or not.

All three above points could be solved with the use of cameras and a system similar to that in Tennis where the players have "challenges" to review "hawk eye" footage (camera footage) to aid decisions. Obviously this comes with the added drawback of making the game very stop-start depending on how many said challenges each team gets and how this is implemented.

Something does need to be done as games are being won and lost at the moment week in week out due to inconsistent refereeing.

Other sports such as cricket/tennis/rugby/basketball/hockey/baseball/NASCAR use instant replay footage to assist. Why can't the world's most watched football league?
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because no-one has 2x cameras which are ALWAYS parallel with the player making the pass, and the player who is 'offside' or not... having a single line to monitor at either end would be a sensible and usable method of detection...

for me, the usage of active zones via these lines free up the linesman to focus on helping the ref once the ball is in the 'zone' instead of constantly trying to calculate the offside or not...

this would alleviate the need for cameras cos the linesman would be better able to make the decision...?
 
jaybee said:
There are two main areas of controversy in football referee decisions:

1: Offside
2: Fouls (consistency with bookings/reds and accuracy)
3: Much less often but still happens; did it go over the line or not.

All three above points could be solved with the use of cameras and a system similar to that in Tennis where the players have "challenges" to review "hawk eye" footage (camera footage) to aid decisions. Obviously this comes with the added drawback of making the game very stop-start depending on how many said challenges each team gets and how this is implemented.

Something does need to be done as games are being won and lost at the moment week in week out due to inconsistent refereeing.

Other sports such as cricket/tennis/rugby/basketball/hockey/baseball/NASCAR use instant replay footage to assist. Why can't the world's most watched football league?
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This 'challenge' thing you are on about, I presume each team has a set number of times they can challenge the decision, say 2 for example. One for each half of the match. Whats stopping someone who has a TV in front of them watching a replay of a dodgy goal line clearance and calling the manager via intercom or some other type of device and telling him, "nah, dont bother. It didnt cross the line". This would make the challenges pretty much useless as they would always win a challenge as they would have information beforehand. Dont you think?

Good idea but I cant see it working, not with the tech we have now. Only takes a second for a replay nowadays and this could benefit the team 'challenging' without wasting the two times thye can use it.
 
Nickg said:
because no-one has 2x cameras which are ALWAYS parallel with the player making the pass, and the player who is 'offside' or not... having a single line to monitor at either end would be a sensible and usable method of detection...

for me, the usage of active zones via these lines free up the linesman to focus on helping the ref once the ball is in the 'zone' instead of constantly trying to calculate the offside or not...

this would alleviate the need for cameras cos the linesman would be better able to make the decision...?
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So basically follow the ice hockey "way" with a line. I agree. Interesting. I'd welcome something like this to be honest. I think in Ice Hockey I am right in thinking that the puck has to cross the offside line before an offensive player. This could work in football too I guess. Hmm...not sure.
 
There's a lot of potential but not enough backing in trying anything really. Maybe they could atleast start with a camera integrated in each post and the crossbar to stop the "was it over the line" controversy.
 
Droolinggimp said:
Whats stopping someone who has a TV in front of them watching a replay of a dodgy goal line clearance and calling the manager via intercom or some other type of device and telling him, "nah, dont bother. It didnt cross the line".
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That's irrelevant, the whole purpose behind it is to help the referee make the right decision.

Droolinggimp said:
This would make the challenges pretty much useless as they would always win a challenge as they would have information beforehand. Dont you think?
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Well that's kind of the point, the end result is that a team has the power to correct a bad decision... instead of just allowing the bad decision to stand and wrapping the referee in cotton wool over it.

The 4th official could have a TV next to him it wouldn't slow the game down that much unless it was a really tight incident requiring an in depth look.
 
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jaybee said:
So basically follow the ice hockey "way" with a line. I agree. Interesting. I'd welcome something like this to be honest. I think in Ice Hockey I am right in thinking that the puck has to cross the offside line before an offensive player. This could work in football too I guess. Hmm...not sure.
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yep, stops goal hanging, i.e u cant just sit in the opponents 18 yard box waiting for a punt and gives u a line that the linesman or 2 can manage easily...

plus means u can have some sprint races with defenders and attackers stood on the line, so a tets of pace too...

for me its the best happy medium.. offside shouldnt be scrapped and goal loitering shouldnt be encouraged!
 
At the moment, you can't be offside in your own half. What would be interesting, would be if there were some new lines drawn approximately half way between the goal and the halfway line, where you couldn't be offside up to that point.
 
The idea behind it would be to stretch the play - stretch the zone in which most of the play occurs. Rather than everyone being concentrated in a small area, it gives an attacker leeway to roam further up the pitch. A defender has to follow, thus leaving gaps elsewhere on the pitch.
 
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