Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2012, Yas Marina - Race 18/20

Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
Vettel ran out of petrol
Everything's going our(Alonso) way :D
 
Even though driving to the pits would have taken him below 1l?

Erm, there were two separate issues:

1) Car stopped on track after qualifying. The FIA asked the team why, RBR gave a good reason that was accepted by the FIA, therefore no penalty.

2) The technical delegates that inspect the cars reported to the stewards that they were unable to extract the specified amount of fuel from the car. This resulted in a disqualification.

If the car had returned to the pits under its own power with less than a litre of fuel the result would have been the same.

If the car had stopped on track but had a litre (or more) of fuel in it Vettel would not have been disqualified.
 
Erm, there were two separate issues:

1) Car stopped on track after qualifying. The FIA asked the team why, RBR gave a good reason that was accepted by the FIA, therefore no penalty.

2) The technical delegates that inspect the cars reported to the stewards that they were unable to extract the specified amount of fuel from the car. This resulted in a disqualification.

If the car had returned to the pits under its own power with less than a litre of fuel the result would have been the same.

If the car had stopped on track but had a litre (or more) of fuel in it Vettel would not have been disqualified.

muon's point being, lets say when he stopped for this unrelated reason, he had 1001ml of fuel - what would the outcome be given that would be enough for a sample now, however, had he continued the pits without a fault, it wouldn't have been enough?
 
Oh what a beautiful morning
Oh what a beautiful day
Vettel ran out of petrol
Everything's going our(Alonso) way :D

Love it :D

Not going to be watching this live. Driving back late morning/early afternoon so won't make it. Gonna watch it delayed sadly.
 
I'm over in Abu Dhabi watching the F1 for the first time. Should be a good race today!

more detials when you return please? :)

I was looking to go to this but got put of when I remembered dubai was not the best of places.

where did you stay and generally what was the overall cost

cheers
Ross

p.s lucky so and so
 
It's all good though, top teams or good drivers will always be targeted. I remember back in Schuey's "glory" days people used to say that Michelin gave Ferrari special compound tryes or at least a special batch for race day. ;)

I highly doubt Michelin were giving Ferrari special tyres. ;)
 
muon's point being, lets say when he stopped for this unrelated reason, he had 1001ml of fuel - what would the outcome be given that would be enough for a sample now, however, had he continued the pits without a fault, it wouldn't have been enough?

If the car had stopped on track but had a litre (or more) of fuel in it Vettel would not have been disqualified.

If the car had returned to the pits under its own power with less than a litre of fuel the result would have been the same.

^ for clarification If the car had returned to the pits under its own power with less than a litre of fuel the result would have been the same. (i.e. he would have been disqualified)
 
What great news about Vettel, just need someone to take him out in the opening laps. It will be the icing on the cake. :)

Just LOL at Horner and his excuses.
 
Horner tried to lie his way out of it but got caught out.

In away I hope that if Alonso is close to lewis at the end of the race Lewis won't fight to much to let Alonso through to the lead and win.

Where is sparky? ;)
 
Just LOL at Horner and his excuses.

They seem to work, so surely it's lol at everyone else for not being able to make up good excuses?

I'd rather Vettel wins this championship than Alonso, but I want to see him work for it. Lets see if he can show Alonso how to overtake at Abu Dhabi.
 
^ for clarification If the car had returned to the pits under its own power with less than a litre of fuel the result would have been the same. (i.e. he would have been disqualified)

You're still missing the point of the question I think.

So if he breaks down (for a genuine reason) and this just happens to leave enough fuel for a sample, but it wouldn't have been enough had he not broken down, he would have been ok, despite the fact he would have broken the rule if he didn't break down?
 
Is that true about Hamilton in Spain? He had enough fuel for the sample but was sent to the back of grid regardless? That's pretty shocking if true, especially if the rule that you have to get back to the pits and provide a sample was only introduced after the Hamilton incident.
 
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