Merc didnt get it wrong though did they....thats the point people have made several times before.
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Merc didnt get it wrong though did they....thats the point people have made several times before.
As said this has nothing to do with the WDC, I believe that max should keep the WDC regardless of the outcome, as I said previously. However we need clarity for the sake of the sport and every driver who drives in the sport as well as the thousands of members of the teams who have jobs they want to keep, which is based on scoring points to be paid etc.
If the FIA want to put their fingers in their collective ears and go la-la-la-la-la-la we can't hear you then it's not really a sport anymore, its a guessing game, since without clearly defined rules that are followed ALL OF THE TIME then why would anyone want to take part? Imagine if you went to work and at the end of each month you have to guess if you were getting paid £50, £1000, £5000 or perhaps nothing based on someones random decision in an office that you have no say in.
If the FIA want to put their fingers in their collective ears and go la-la-la-la-la-la we can't hear you then it's not really a sport anymore, its a guessing game, since without clearly defined rules that are followed ALL OF THE TIME then why would anyone want to take part? Imagine if you went to work and at the end of each month you have to guess if you were getting paid £50, £1000, £5000 or perhaps nothing based on someones random decision in an office that you have no say in.
If they pitted Lewis, Max would have stayed out to take the lead and the race would have ended under SC.
I am so far from a Hamilton fan (he whines so much he makes Cheesefest seem like a nice placid chap) but all I want is a nice clean race where the best driver comes out on top, yesterday with a 11 second lead and several lapped cars between him and 2nd place it was quite obvious that Max wasn't getting anywhere near to Lewis due to his performance on the day, in steps the "let's change the rules on the fly" brigade and removes the goalposts that Lewis is kicking at (to use a football analogy as previous people seem to want to use one) and then say next goal wins.
With your comments it's quite obvious who you wanted to win and it didn't matter how it was gained where I was happy for the best driver/car combination for the overall season to win in a nice close fought uncontroversial race, unfortunately the FIA have decided against that and with that it has turned me of the sport as what is the point in watching if they pre-decide who wins WWE style so with that I shall be bowing out to concentrate my efforts on a much more enjoyable sport (to me at least).
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If FIA is found guilty, sorry but max should be strpped off of the title as he only won it because of FIA gifting it to them.
FIA need to be punished as well. severely
The first part of your statement is correct, the other bit is fictional.
Because this wasn't just a 'lack of consistency' from the FIA, this was choosing to rewrite/reinterpret/throw away the rules on the fly and create an unfair playing field.
At the point the safety car is called, Mercedes are presented with a choice (historically always a bit of a crap choice but that's how it is). They can stay out for track position or pit for better tyres but sacrifice the lead. They'll have mounds of strategy data telling them the likelihood of needing to go racing again at that point in the race and on that basis, they make a decision based on the expected rules - there would either be back markers between Lewis and Max if it does restart that quickly or it'll take long enough to sort them out (as per the written rules) to see out the race distance so the best (arguably only) choice for them is to stay out. If this happened 5 laps earlier, i'm sure they'd have pitted, sacrificed the lead but been comfortable they'd have had a few laps to run at Max with a clear pace advantage.
What Masi did was change the parameters completely to force a restart sooner than expected and without following the established procedure either way, which the FIA have justified with 'well we're interpreting this other rule to mean the director can do whatever he wants' - you might as well throw the safety car section of the regs away at that point. This means that the decision Mercedes made is no longer based in the reality they're then presented with, a reality that more than likely would have seen them pit, if they'd known that regardless of anything else, Masi was going to force at least one racing lap with no back markers present. This isn't sporting and it certainly isn't fair behaviour.
This all becomes doubly bitter when it all happens moments after Horner says "we need one lap" to Masi over the radio.
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It would be hard to strip Max of his title as they are then predicting the outcome by giving it to Hamilton. If Max wasn't allowed to pass the other cars he "may" still have caught/passed Hamilton or something else may have happened etc.
Yeah I don't know where I will get my Motorsport fix now. I don't like any of the riders left in MotoGP or BSB now and I haven't watched dodgey BTCC for years. F2 and e-series are just a bit lame and I don't watch indy or NASCAR ****. WRC is just a bit boring to watch being time trial.
F1 is entertaining when it's fair.
F1 is entertaining when it's fair.
Aussie V8 supercars will give you your fix!
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Yeh too many tin foil hats to debate anything here.
I don't remember many championships that went down as underserved and highly controversial. The Hamilton one in Brazil with the Glock thing was pure luck. Nothing dodgey about that. Him and Massa would have deserved it. So yeah I do think F1 mostly sort stuff out fairly over the years. This year has been the worst stewarding and ruling ever by a very long way. Consistently inconsistent. Corrupt. Unfair. Bias.When was that last the case - the 70's?
The race should have finished behind the safety car though...isnt that Mercedes' argument? I mean letting only Verstappen through seems dodgy as well. Why wasn't 3rd place allowed to challenge?
This is simply false, he didn't have that sort of time at all.
It was a 12s gap - there's no way he gets in and out before Max goes past.
5 laps before the end of the race with that sort of accident to clean up and lapped cars to sort out - it would have been a suicidal bet by Mercedes to pit Lewis, they'd have been handing Max the Championship on a plate.
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I was going with max pitting too.
If max stayed out and ham pitted it would be the exact same situation but roles reversed and the other half of everyone crying about it.
But I understand why merc didn't pit.
I stated watching endurance racing a bit this year. Obviously the long races make it hard to watch live even if you have time, so I usually watch bits live and then highlights. Helps that they're live on YouTube. Don't really know the rules or many drivers or teams but it's nice to put it on when I had time. Usually have it on 2nd screen while I play some slow paced game on the main screen.
It wasn't only Max that was allowed to pass but not all and that is the questionable part, the race should not have ended under a safety car if the track was clear and that was the point I was making.
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