Poll: Abu Dhabi Grand Prix 2021, Yas Island - Race 22

Rate the 2021 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix out of ten. If you want. I can’t be arsed.


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Ah, i thought the rule was they "had" to be allowed to pass.

Lewis Vs Max doesn't really matter if it was just the 5 cars. If all had gone through the result would have been the same. But yes, I had thought it was a bad call for those cars stuck behind Max.

Yes, but for all cars to go through - A. that takes longer B. they safety car has to do an additional lap after that before coming in.

Mercedes made their call on the assumed length of the safety car if all cars get to unlap based on the rules.
 
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Masi could of ordered the lapped cars through on the previous lap and the result would of been the same. Hamilton got shafted by the safety car more than Masi... Welcome to Formula 1.
I think their wasnt enough laps, if he let them all through, then usually you let them allow to catch up to the back etc. The race would have, or really should have, ended under safety car.
 
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I think their wasnt enough laps, if he let them all through, then usually you let them allow to catch up to the back etc. The race would have, or really should have, ended under safety car.

indeed. Which is what Merc based their entire strategy on. You can't operate in this sport if the RD can maniuplate/make up the rules as he sees fit.
 
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Masi could of ordered the lapped cars through on the previous lap and the result would of been the same. Hamilton got shafted by the safety car more than Masi... Welcome to Formula 1.

Yeah I think Masi panicked after realising he made the mistake of not letting them through a lap earlier, crash was pretty much cleared at that point, and came up with this crazy decision to only let some of them through.

Nope, there were still marshalls on track (there are pictures that show this).

I think as long as the crane/ front loader is already of the track then that's fine?
 
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Heck of a change from October in the Turkey GP thread when you were still declaring this to be one of the best seasons in recent history:
I'm not sure what your point is? Of course opinion has changed, didn't you notice the last few races? I don't disagree with what I said back then anyway - it's obviously been a fantastically exciting season but to end it like this has forever tainted it. Like, duh :confused:

No it wont. Max won, everyone has accepted it apart from you it seems.
When they do the highlight reel of Max's career they'll be hard pushed to show the final lap of Abu Dhabi 2021 without some context of the safety car restart etc. It's there for all of history. Just like people keep talking about Schumacher's incidents, this will be the same. I'll accept Max is champion now that Merc have withdrawn the appeal, but as I said it's forever tainted, and in alot of people's minds he's champion on paper only, and only because of Masi's outrageous decision making.

I'll continue to argue against anyone that says he deserves it, because I still have the opinion that he's an unfair and dangerous driver in a toxic team that thinks politically lobbying throughout the race and season is the only way to win.
 
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I guess we’ll see what comes out of this review. I hope something positive as Merc are giving up their chance to, rightfully, force the issue. Though it’s the FIA so doubt anything will change.

I strongly suspect that Mercedes will have warned the FIA that, should a proper review and subsequent changes not take place, they'll walk away from the sport.
 

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The FIA played a blinder here.

By putting out that press release saying they'll investigate and review the events, along with the teams and drivers etc they've effectively shown willing to Mercedes who've taken that bait.

I didn't want the title to be taken from Max but I did want Mercedes to rinse the FIA in the courts and make them out to be the inept fools they are. Oh well.

I'd liken it to being suspected of cheating on your wife then before the other woman gets in there to blow things wide open, you rush in to some marriage counselling and take her on a holiday whilst you try to smooth things over.
 
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That's me done with F1, what's the point of investing in watching a whole season for it to be decided in the last few seconds by some imaginary rule that the race director decided on the spot, not felt this waste of time since Game of Thrones ended (although it did have a lot of anti-climax warnings in the build up to the last season).
 
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The FIA played a blinder here.

By putting out that press release saying they'll investigate and review the events, along with the teams and drivers etc they've effectively shown willing to Mercedes who've taken that bait.

I didn't want the title to be taken from Max but I did want Mercedes to rinse the FIA in the courts and make them out to be the inept fools they are. Oh well.

I'd liken it to being suspected of cheating on your wife then before the other woman gets in there to blow things wide open, you rush in to some marriage counselling and take her on a holiday whilst you try to smooth things over.

it was going to be a show trial. It’s the FIA judging the FIA l, how do you think that will end.

Mercedes pulling out of the appeal was always going to happen. The result was never going to change.

The FIA will do one of two things. Conduct a proper review and fundamental change or double down and go full entertainment mode.
 
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I can see Mercedes staff dishing out a lot of 'we want to win this season on track without relying on stewarding interference', 'we won't leave it to the race director to decide this year' comments in interviews next year. Whilst they'll drop the appeal, I think they'll continue to dig away at the idea it was an undeserved title just to get under Red Bull and Verstappen's skin.
 
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I can see Mercedes staff dishing out a lot of 'we want to win this season on track without relying on stewarding interference', 'we won't leave it to the race director to decide this year' comments in interviews next year. Whilst they'll drop the appeal, I think they'll continue to dig away at the idea it was an undeserved title just to get under Red Bull and Verstappen's skin.
Exactly and Max won't be able to escape the shadow no matter what he and the team say, indeed the team employees will well know what a mess it is.
In fact the more they publicise it the worse it will get, the only people who will really think it was fairly won will be die hard Max fans and superficial people who are just near f1 for the reflection.
Even the die hard Max fans will know really, but they will take it because its all they've got.
 
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I'd liken it to being suspected of cheating on your wife then before the other woman gets in there to blow things wide open, you rush in to some marriage counselling and take her on a holiday whilst you try to smooth things over.

Well, this sounds like the voice of experience. How did it work out for you?
 
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You need to see the context. I'm not just referring to people in here but the wider social media..

I consider my self neutral in this, your post suggest that I'm one of the other two groups because I accepted the result. It seems like Merc and Lewis accepted it as well. Are you calling them Max's fans or bigots?
 
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I consider my self neutral in this, your post suggest that I'm one of the other two groups because I accepted the result. It seems like Merc and Lewis accepted it as well. Are you calling them Max's fans or bigots?

HA stop trying to make out something it's not and putting words into my mouth. Merc acknowledge it - accepted it Nah...

It's done with now. Nothing will change it.. Merc bottled it and rolled over..
 
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