Accident

[Gaijin]

Edit: Dont worry about opinions etc in this thread. People are just discussing stuff over the internet. The main thing is that you are ok, the guy you hit is ok, and you learn something from what happened

That is right, the main thing is everyone is alright. It's the crux of the matter which is why most normal people focus on it and leave others to get a stiffy over speculating over what could have happened.

"OCUK Detective" applies totally in this case. You'll never ever know exactly what happened. That is because only one person in this thread knows what happened and even he isn't too sure as it allegedly happened so quickly.

So you are speculating over something you'll never know, and whereas you may pass it off as that you are some holy crusader trying to find the truth so that mankind can sleep easy tonight, you are really just looking for someone to blame.

Try and be nice for once in your life - sure you may have got some stick when you binned it, but its because you do what you are doing in this thread - witch hunting.

 

[[TW]Fox]

And deny you the chance to play the part you love so much in threads like this? It simply wouldn't be cricket Incidently you should have noticed that i normally keep out of the accident threads. This one was so blatant though I felt I wanted to comment.

 

[PiKe]

I like to think I've got more sense than torque, below 6500rpm anyway

 

[Stupot_]

Blablabla

Christ give the guy a break! Everyone knows you have an opinion. No need to keep repeating it, get over yourself! You're like a dog with a bone.

Here is a dog with a bone.

 

["andy"]

glad your ok OP

fairly lucky not to flip it imo ! that's what happened to my neighbour when he lost the back end and hit the central curb on a similar road.

as for the boring speculation well zzzzzz

 

[[TW]Fox]

No need to keep repeating it, get over yourself!

Generally what tends to happen in a discussion is people will address points you make, you'll reply, etc etc. Inevitably you tend to end up clarifying your point more than once as the discussion progresses.

as for the boring speculation well zzzzzz

I agree. Lets have 30 replies all saying 'sorry to hear about dat m8'. That would be hugely thrilling and more interesting than speculating.

Because of course speculation is totally un-natural and its as if its human nature to speculate as to the cause of something you were not involved with or anything like that

 

[Skeeter]

"Guy in Supra with turbos and body kit and decals down the door looses control and crosses central reservation and crashed into an oncoming car"

Nope, I cant see why anyone would jump to any conclusion other than 'he was just driving perfectly normally'...

 

[shauncr91]

supra from hell vid

Great vid, this is better though

As for the OP, sorry to hear about your accident, just glad it wasn't more serious though, it's only a piece of metal at the end of the day and can be replaced

Where abouts in Sheffield did it happen ?

 

[Stupot_]

Generally what tends to happen in a discussion is people will address points you make, you'll reply, etc etc. Inevitably you tend to end up clarifying your point more than once as the discussion progresses.

I might have missed a few, but you get the idea I appreciate you want to get on a pedestal and tell everyone what you've discovered. It's just a bit tedious after a while.

Are these cars prone to throwing themselves across central reservations in residential areas into oncoming traffic when being driven normally?..

It's not something that happens when driving within limits - no matter how bad the conditions may have been.

then just happened to flip over a central reservation into oncoming traffic

Something as lairy as a Supra demands respect. If you dont have that respect, buy something else.

You cant jump straight into a 400bhp Supra after owning only FWD stuff and not expect to get bitten, hard.

And I still don't really think the OP is happy to concede it was all his fault..

(The OP seems to think that because he was under the speed limit everything is ok?).

the ones where you said it might have been diesel or the ones where you said 'I wasn't even speeding'?

 

[[TW]Fox]

When you put it like that I actually see your point

I think I might go back to spectating crash threads

 

[Kenai]

User Name  	Posts
Six6siX 	16
[TW]Fox 	13
MrLOL 		5
mjt 		4
peterattheboro 	4

 

[Stupot_]

When you put it like that I actually see your point

I think I might go back to spectating crash threads

Nah. I don't post here a lot, but I read a fair bit and you're always pretty entertaining

 

[[TW]Fox]

User Name  	Posts
Six6siX 	16
[TW]Fox 	13
MrLOL 		5
mjt 		4
peterattheboro 	4

 

[aproctor]

I had my first spin a few weeks ago, round a corner + slippy road = back end out and into another car.

The damage was minimal apart from the bruised ego, but i'm with Fox with this one, i'm glad the OP is ok and it is a shame about the car but something is not being said i.e. showing off?


I can easily imagine my spin being as bad as the O/Ps if it was 3x more powerful, not due to the speed, but the limited time it takes to reach it.

Remember BHP is how fast you hit the wall, Torque is how hard you hit it.

 

[MarkDavis]

I appreciate you want to get on a pedestal and tell everyone what you've discovered. It's just a bit tedious after a while.

Why shouldn't he? It would be different if it was Fox ripping into someone about buying a new car, which would be a bit OTT, but his comments are completely legitimate given the context - the OP wiped out his own car, flipped over the central reservation, and wiped out someone elses.

It's lucky nobody got killed - least of all the people in the other car who were simply minding their own business on a Sunday morning. If a rollicking, peer disapproval or someone explaining to him the potential consequences, avoids someone getting killed next time, I'm all for it and more. It's exactly what goes on at Speed Choice workshops - people who deal with traffic accidents (and fatalities) explaining in a calm, objective but detailed way, why the accident happened and the consequences, which many many people do not think about.

Because of the subject matter, it really should be 'open season' every time there's a crash thread. Internet forums shouldn't be divorced from the real world. In the real world you certainly wouldn't have everyone artificially limiting their comments to 'Oh yeah, what Supra waz dat then', 'how many BHPz did it 'av?', grin, nudge, nudge, wink wink, and not talking about driving too fast for the conditions and the possible consequences.

 

[MikeHiow]

A couple of years ago, I was out driving in my E36 325i, I came into town to pick up a friend, the roads were a little damp, and as I came around a 90 degree bend I found my self pointing the wrong way two lanes over.

I wasn't driving erratically, or even slightly spirited - just normally, hit what I know now to be a point of a previous diesel spillage, which no amount of opposite lock, or powering through was going to bring me straight again from.

I don't consider myself to be inexperienced in a RWD motor, in fact, quite the opposite, I spent my youth rallying and drifting around our field in an old Cortina, I've owned various BMWs in my time driving, and competed in the local autotests in both FWD and RWD motors since I was 16.

It's also worth mentioning that in my five, very nearly six years on the road, I've not had so much as one accident, with this little incident probably being my worst hickup on the road to date.

What caused my accident? Inexperience? My age? My mentality? Nope. Hitting a diesel spill whilst driving like my Grandmother surely cannot attribute blame on me, would you not agree?

Had this been in the daytime, I almost certainly would have taken someone else out with me, so is it not possible that the OPs instance was purely bad luck and an honest accident?

 

[Stupot_]

Why shouldn't he?

I wasn't moaning about what Fox was saying. I agree. Was just moaning about the frequency of what was being said

 

[MarkDavis]

I still think the frequency is justified on this occasion because of the subject matter. And not least to counterbalance the apathy to road safety and consequences from everyone else....

 

[Scania]

Remember BHP is how fast you hit the wall, Torque is how hard you hit it.

This is true.

Glad the OP is ok,


"another one bites the dust"

 

[Batf1nk]

I thought everyone one who owns a jdm y0 car drives in maximum attack mode 100% of the time??!