Adding a sub to a soundbar?

MCFC_ANDY · 11 Nov 2023 at 21:45

hornetstinger said:
Don't see why. The sub will outclass the soundbar and cost more but a quality sub will help with the soundbars poor bass reponse, and better subs will be able to play higher frequency better. You'll need to use a high crossover in the sub, what soundbar do you have?

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hornetstinger · 11 Nov 2023 at 21:55

Hard to say what 2x 3" subwoofer can go down to. Depends on how it's crossed. Maybe try 120hz on the sub, need to listen to see where it's overlapping

hornetstinger · 11 Nov 2023 at 22:01

What you could do, if it has a feature,.reduce the bass on the denon soundbar subwoofer, but increase crossover on the subwoofer.

That will allow the denon to play louder cleaner with less distortion and let the proper sub take over.

hornetstinger · 11 Nov 2023 at 22:16

That Denon doesn't support DTS? Wow I had DTS decoder on my old Denon processor 20 years ago.

lucid · 12 Nov 2023 at 05:17

hornetstinger said:
That Denon doesn't support DTS? Wow I had DTS decoder on my old Denon processor 20 years ago.

It's a sound bar, not an AV receiver. That gives you a clue about the intended use. (It's also £200, but that's another part of the story.) Anyway, since this is a TV sound bar, and Freeview / Freesat / Sky / Virgin / Netflix / Disney+ / Amazon Prime / Apple TV / Paramount+ / iPlayer / BritBox / NowTV and just about any other UK streaming service doesn't do DTS then it's not really surprising.

lucid · 12 Nov 2023 at 05:25

MCFC_ANDY said:
the thing i got in my head thats seeding doubt is will the soundbar be able to use the sub to its full potential, as obviously when go down the living room route that a amp/receiver or what every they call them these days, then they will use the it fully, will the soundbar limit its abilities

The sound bar has its own limits, of course. However, the signals flowing through it aren't curtailed in any way. The sub should be getting exactly the same PCM / DD / DD+ / Dolby True-HD signal as it would if it were passing through a £5,000 AV amp. Your sub (when you get one) will do just fine.

If you want to test the limits of how low the sound bars subs will play, go to YouTube on the TV's smart apps. Search for Test Tones. These are a number of sweeps (rising or falling tones between two frequencies) that you'll find useful. There's one from 25-150Hz which is the right range. Grab your smart phone, download a sound meter app, use that to monitor the volume as the tone increases. You might have to fiddle around with the bar's volume to get enough level to make the meter reading react strongly.

Play the tone a few times to get an idea where there's a fairly quick increase in loudness. This will help you narrow down to the sort of crossover frequency you need for blending the sub.

MCFC_ANDY · 12 Nov 2023 at 11:37

lucid said:
The sound bar has its own limits, of course. However, the signals flowing through it aren't curtailed in any way. The sub should be getting exactly the same PCM / DD / DD+ / Dolby True-HD signal as it would if it were passing through a £5,000 AV amp. Your sub (when you get one) will do just fine.

If you want to test the limits of how low the sound bars subs will play, go to YouTube on the TV's smart apps. Search for Test Tones. These are a number of sweeps (rising or falling tones between two frequencies) that you'll find useful. There's one from 25-150Hz which is the right range. Grab your smart phone, download a sound meter app, use that to monitor the volume as the tone increases. You might have to fiddle around with the bar's volume to get enough level to make the meter reading react strongly.

Play the tone a few times to get an idea where there's a fairly quick increase in loudness. This will help you narrow down to the sort of crossover frequency you need for blending the sub.

I was in there last night testing time.
But that puts me at rest, all I need to do is win I keep losing out last second lol

scottjwong · 13 Jul 2024 at 07:08

Just bought the Denon dht-s217, every time I connect to my Yamaha subwoofer, it disconnects my bluetooth connection.It's very very frustrating. I tried so many times. Anyone here have any solutions or tips?