Adele asks Spotify to remove the random button (for albums)

Most really. Many albums have interludes, bridging songs, slow and heavy songs. They will be intentionally put in an order to have a flow and journey through the album.

It’s the same thing when you go to a concert, the set order will be specifically picked to create an experience.

Bands will (typically) pick their best and most popular songs to play live. They might order them to create some sort of an experience but in effect the band are doing a live shuffle taking a song from album a, one from b, one from d, a second from a etc.
 
Bands will (typically) pick their best and most popular songs to play live. They might order them to create some sort of an experience but in effect the band are doing a live shuffle taking a song from album a, one from b, one from d, a second from a etc.
It's not random though is it?

A lot of conflating of "picking the songs I like" with "shuffle" in the thread. It's not the same
 
You realise plenty of bands change their order every date on a tour? You're massively overvaluing how important the order of tracks is.
Not random though is it.

Like, would a band end on a new track, or a crowd favourite? Is there some importance to that?

And live performance is transformative. Conflating album listens with live music is another distraction
 
It's not random though is it?

A lot of conflating of "picking the songs I like" with "shuffle" in the thread. It's not the same

It’s not random no but you’ve got posters in this thread saying they’ve never listened to albums out or order and even best of albums ruin it.

Though I don’t think it’s conflating, it’s more an added complication. If Adele is saying albums should only be listened to it order then even picking songs I like is against the artist wishes and not as intended.
 
It’s not random no but you’ve got posters in this thread saying they’ve never listened to albums out or order and even best of albums ruin it.

Though I don’t think it’s conflating, it’s more an added complication. If Adele is saying albums should only be listened to it order then even picking songs I like is against the artist wishes and not as intended.

Not really, as if that were really the case she wouldn't release singles from it.
 
Though I don’t think it’s conflating, it’s more an added complication. If Adele is saying albums should only be listened to it order then even picking songs I like is against the artist wishes and not as intended.
Shuffle is a lot different to making a value judgement on which tracks you want to listen to, or deciding a preferred order.

As per @VincentHanna, singles are released: the artist recognises that picking out preferred tracks is fine.
 
Most really. Many albums have interludes, bridging songs, slow and heavy songs. They will be intentionally put in an order to have a flow and journey through the album.

It’s the same thing when you go to a concert, the set order will be specifically picked to create an experience.

Few bands will play an entire album, in order, at their shows. I think I've only seen that happen once- Metallica doing the whole of Master of Puppets on the 25th (?) Anniversary shows.

They didn't play the whole album in order on the original Master Of Puppets tour. I know as I was there.
 
I love playing albums randomly - always play them in order on first play

Incidentally, the other day I played a CD on random and it played in order!

Main stereo I have is this https://www.panasonic.com/uk/support/discontinued-products/home-entertainment/sc-rs52.html
which has memory to store 25 CDs of music. I have put on my favourite albums plus a couple of compilations. It plays them randomly so disc 18 track 4, disc 23 track 7, disc 5 track 3…

My iPod (which people still want Apple) always play songs on shuffle. So it can go from Genesis’ Supper’s Ready to Sugarhill Gang’s Rapper’s Delight.
 
Few bands will play an entire album, in order, at their shows. I think I've only seen that happen once- Metallica doing the whole of Master of Puppets on the 25th (?) Anniversary shows.

They didn't play the whole album in order on the original Master Of Puppets tour. I know as I was there.

I have seen a few bands do it, but it's pretty exclusively when its an anniversary date of a famous album, eg : New Model Army - Thunder and Consolation, Levellers - Levelling the Land, Roger Waters - The Wall (Obviously :p)
 
I wouldn't exactly call myself an artist but I've done a ton of video game modding over the years including creating custom levels - I find that perspective as per Shinedown and so on closed minded.
he/she/whatever sounds like the type of person who would make cutscenes you can't skip.

Very few albums have an actual story or interludes etc tat need to be played in order.

I think snoop doggs doggystyle is the only album I can remember being like it.

more like a radio show or something than an album your listening to at home.
 
Shuffle is a lot different to making a value judgement on which tracks you want to listen to, or deciding a preferred order.

As per @VincentHanna, singles are released: the artist recognises that picking out preferred tracks is fine.

It's ******* weird to listen to an album in random order. It's like reading a book's chapters all mixed up.

It's why "best of" albums are crap: loses the story.

Listening to an album in order is ok as well as listening to an album out of order is ok too but only if it's your preferred order as a random order is weird. Listening to select songs is OK if the artist has chosen them as singles or you've made a judgement of the tracks you want to listen to but a "best of" album in which the artist may have chosen the order of is crap.

I'm not sure if you're being contradictory or, from my perspective, just have an extremely odd demarcation of what's weird/crap and ok.
 
Listening to an album in order is ok as well as listening to an album out of order is ok too but only if it's your preferred order as a random order is weird. Listening to select songs is OK if the artist has chosen them as singles or you've made a judgement of the tracks you want to listen to but a "best of" album in which the artist may have chosen the order of is crap.

I'm not sure if you're being contradictory or, from my perspective, just have an extremely odd demarcation of what's weird/crap and ok.
Best Of albums are a monetary endeavour rather than an artistic one. I'd actually say 'shuffle' is fine on Best Ofs.

Art is about interpretation : picking out your own highlights or running order can be a part of that interpretation. Just like having favourite, meaningful, excepts of books.

Shuffle isn't an interpretation, nor an appreciation of the artist's vision.

Not everything has to be appreciative of the art. If you just want to consume background noise, then stick it on shuffle. But don't get defensive about it :D
 
You sound a bit weird about music cheesyboy. Not sure why you're so offended that people want to listen in a different way to you. This idea that songs can't be appreciated by themselves and have to be part of the tracks around them is really weird.
 
You sound a bit weird about music cheesyboy. Not sure why you're so offended that people want to listen in a different way to you. This idea that songs can't be appreciated by themselves and have to be part of the tracks around them is really weird.
I've said repeatedly that picking out favourites is a legit part of appreciating the art.

But Shuffle on an album is not the same. It's Shuffle we're talking about here, remember, not mix tapes :D
 
I'm quite please about this TBH. I complained to spotify about this a couple of years ago - I pay for the premium version and I should be able to listen to music unshuffled if I want.
 
I'm glad also. I have the same feeling towards people who ask what "order" they should watch a series of films, or which albums of an artist's discography they should "start with" - just bloody go from start to finish. Chapter 1 to chapter 100. Release date order. Track 1 to track 10. How difficult is it to just experience something in the format it's presented to you?

If it's your second or otherwise repeated viewing/listening/reading, then sure, go in chronological or random order if you want, but to initially consume some media, why would you not just want to experience it in its purest form? No shuffling, no chronological prequels before sequels, just experience it as if you were growing up in the era that it was released.
 
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