Advice for game rig (and photo editing) £700 max

ShivP · 20 Apr 2015 at 14:36

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 290X LE Gaming Edition 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £199.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED316G2400HC11CDC01) £89.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97P-D3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £63.95
1 x Seasonic S12II 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £52.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £41.99
1 x Antec VSP5000 Silenced Tower Case - Black £39.95
Total : £743.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Something with that Antec case which comes with fans etc, and the AMD GPU which as Poneros and I said is better for Photoshop
Did you want the £700/£750 to include the price of OcUK to build it for you (£60?)

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 14:38

Shivy011 said:
Something with that Antec case which comes with fans etc, and the AMD GPU which as Poneros and I said is better for Photoshop

Still waiting on my source for your claim.

ShivP · 20 Apr 2015 at 14:50

stulid said:
Still waiting on my source for your claim.

http://www.geeks3d.com/20120425/ado...l-accelerated-mercury-graphics-engine-opengl/

It's quite an old article, however it highlights that for pure photoshop CS6(.5) and in MGE OpenCL is more widely adopted for Photoshop. For After effects etc I believe CUDA is better but for Photoshop looking on forums and such it seems that OpenCL/AMD is recommended

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 14:54

Is old.

This is newer (Monday 5 August 2013) - http://content.hwigroup.net/images/articles/gpgpu2013-pscs6-ocl.png

Photoshop Nvidia is faster in that test which is newer.

Also looking at forums it seems many prefer Nvidia - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18595620

ShivP · 20 Apr 2015 at 15:02

stulid said:
Also looking at forums it seems many prefer Nvidia - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18595620

That's because After Effects doesn't use MGE for rendering, which is where nvidia beats AMD, whereas for photoshop only MGE prefers OpenCL

Perhaps there is someone who knows a bit more about this for photoshop?

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 15:04

Shivy011 said:
That's because After Effects doesn't use MGE for rendering, which is where nvidia beats AMD, whereas for photoshop only MGE prefers OpenCL

Perhaps there is someone who knows a bit more about this for photoshop?

So you don't know yet you said AMD was best?

Photoshop (CS6 is the whole Adobe suite of programs) actually uses the the GPU for very little effects and it is the CPU that is most important.

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 22:46

do you think its better that OC build it for me? ...i mean at least it will have warranty if its put together by them

ok guys the price all in i'm thinking of spending has now risen to £900 which includes monitor and building..

any more suggestions keeping in mind i want it maybe 50% photo editing and 50% games!!!!!

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 22:47

All the parts have warrnty anyway.

Do you know how to build a PC? there are a lot of videos on youtube showing how its done.

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 22:52

if it was your £900 what would you do????
i dont need SSD (got a new one to fit)
no operating system (got Win 7 pro)

system with a 24" monitor and build costs please

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 22:53

if its easy enough i will have a go myself! ... just a bit worried about the processor fiddly bit with the paste etc :-~

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 22:58

The paste comes pre-applied to the bottom of the stock heatsink, you take a plastic cover of the base of the heatsink and fit it.

When you place the CPU into the socket and close the lever for the first time there is always a crunching noise.

Place the CPU into the socket carefully as to not bend/damage any of the pins in the socket (the cpu bottom is flat).

It doesnt look like a complicated build and I can help if you get stuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Q8ksRI1Eo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:04

great stuff stulid ...thanks for your help..... now give me your absolute best spec for my £900 with a monitor mate

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:07

Did you need a dvd drive?

The windows files on the disk can be placed onto a USB stick and booted from that for the install.

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:09

i would like a drive .. lie to make a few CD's now and again

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:10

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£12 Saving** £277.98
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 970 OC Silent "Infin8 Black Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **WorldWide Exclusive** £269.99
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Antec TruePower Classic 550w '80 Plus Gold' Power Supply £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £44.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £41.99
1 x Antec VSP5000 Silenced Tower Case - Black £39.95
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
1 x LG 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM GH24NSC0.AUAA10B £13.99
Total : £888.85 (includes shipping : ).

The other GTX970 (the one with two games etc) adds shipping which takes it way over.

P.S this extra heatsink you will get a small sachet/syringe of paste and you will have to apply a pea sized blob to the centre on the CPU and then the clamping force of the cooler spreads it out.

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YOUR BASKET
1 x OcUK GeForce GTX 970 "NVIDIA 970 Cooler Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **Online ONLY Promo** £305.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £199.99
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97P-D3 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £63.95
1 x Seasonic S12II 520W '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £52.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £44.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £41.99
1 x Antec VSP5000 Silenced Tower Case - Black £39.95
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
1 x LG 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM GH24NSC0.AUAA10B £13.99
Total : £926.74 (includes shipping : £19.10).

Unfortunately this board is out of stock.

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:17

looks great! ... cheers, is the one with the 2 free games really that much of a better deal?

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:20

If you dont have them and also need a mouse mat it is.

But look at this,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£12 Saving** £277.98
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 970 OC Silent "Infin8 Black Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **WorldWide Exclusive** £269.99
1 x Antec P100 Mid Tower Case & HCG-620M 620W 80+ Bronze Modular PSU Bundle £120.91
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £44.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £41.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
1 x LG 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM GH24NSC0.AUAA10B £13.99
Total : £909.83 (includes shipping : ).

Much higher quality case and a stronger PSU.

marko999 · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:28

stulid said:
If you dont have them and also need a mouse mat it is.

But look at this,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-SLI - Devils Canyon Core i5 4690K Bundle **£12 Saving** £277.98
1 x KFA2 GeForce GTX 970 OC Silent "Infin8 Black Edition" 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card **WorldWide Exclusive** £269.99
1 x Antec P100 Mid Tower Case & HCG-620M 620W 80+ Bronze Modular PSU Bundle £120.91
1 x AOC E2460SH 24" Widescreen 1ms Gaming LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan RED 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLRED38G2400HC11CDC01) £44.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £41.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
1 x LG 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM GH24NSC0.AUAA10B £13.99
Total : £909.83 (includes shipping : ).

Much higher quality case and a stronger PSU.

not too bothered about a fancy case to be honest ...the previous £40 one would do me! ..i mean what benefits would i get out of this higher quality case???

Ace Modder · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:32

The P100 is much sturdier, offers a sleek front door design and is great for silencing - but the other case is great for noise dampening as well.

Either choice is good, but depends on what you want to spend. Boith the P100 and VSP5000 comes with top noise dampened foam panel inserts for the top 120mm x 2 vents, so that if your not looking for massive airflow (for overclocking etc) these offer the best of both.

stulid · 20 Apr 2015 at 23:35

I think that sums it up nicely.

Also the P100 has better cable management it seems, such as nice range of holes with those nice rubber grommets.

even just looking at the pictures on the interiors the P100 looks to be a nicer finish.

Advice for game rig (and photo editing) £700 max

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