Advice of 1k gaming rig / Breach?

[koshiuk]

Hi all, I'm getting back into PC gaming and been looking at the "Breach" overclockers bundle, i've got experience building machines and wondering if there is much of a saving etc? and will it have less warranty if anything fails?

Need to be better spec / graphics than my xbox one, mainly playing COD, Forza/Assetto Corsa, Warthunder and VR later down the line and around 1k, if poss....

Many thanks.

 

[eeek]

see https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/1000-gaming-pc-no-peripherals.18894371/ where someone else has asked virtually the same question.

Edit to add - Of course your warranty will then be done to the warranty on the individual parts.

 

[koshiuk]

OK thanks will check it out....

 

[Sparx]

You mean the Breach pre-built system, this one? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-breach-gaming-pc-for-cod-modern-warfare-fs-1dq-og.html

If prepared to build it yourself and buy all components, you can get better quality parts? Especially the PSU, faster RAM, bigger SSD, nicer case etc. Maybe squeeze better GPU in there too like 5700 XT.

Also save a chunk of change on the W10 OS license, as you can buy a key yourself for £5-10 on a popular auction website.

 

[koshiuk]

You mean the Breach pre-built system, this one? https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-breach-gaming-pc-for-cod-modern-warfare-fs-1dq-og.html

If prepared to build it yourself and buy all components, you can get better quality parts? Especially the PSU, faster RAM, bigger SSD, nicer case etc. Maybe squeeze better GPU in there too like 5700 XT.

Also save a chunk of change on the W10 OS license, as you can buy a key yourself for £5-10 on a popular auction website.

Cool thanks for that, never really considered the AMD GPU..... been quite set on the Nvidia RTX

 

[koshiuk]

Had a look and bundled this together, look good? any improvements / replacements advice?

Quantity Stock ID Description Price Total
1 MB-33T-MS MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard £119.99 £119.99
1 CP-3B9-AM AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail £175.99 £175.99
1 MY-456-CS Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B32 £74.99 £74.99
1 HD-55V-WD WD Black 1TB SN750 M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T3X0C) £129.95 £129.95
1 CA-78B-LL Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black £74.99 £74.99
1 GX-04U-PL Palit GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DUAL 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card £349.99 £349.99
1 MY-0A5-TG TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive £99.95 £99.95
1 CA-05D-AS ASUS ROG STRIX 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply £129.95 £129.95
£1155.80

 

[mickyflinn]

You can get teamgroup 3600mhz for the same price.

The asus psu is just a rebadge seasonic psu you could get the corsair rx 650w for £100.

 

[Sparx]

Sorry no I wasn't suggesting it that PC I linked lol - I was asking if that was the 'Breach' bundle system you was talking about? But I guess not

So are you looking at building the system yourself to clarify??

I'd invest in a B550 board personally to future proof better. And RAM I'd get a 3600MHz kit.

Did you mean to add both a 1TB NVMe and 1TB SSD? You could just get a single 2TB SSD (WD Blue) for less if you want 2TB storage. PSU is over priced, could get the Phanteks 550w for £30-40 less I believe.

2060S isn't great value for money tbh, the 5700 XT will perform better for £40 extra. Unless you really want Nvidia RTX just not great for the ££ it costs with 2060S.

 

[koshiuk]

Sorry no I wasn't suggesting it that PC I linked lol - I was asking if that was the 'Breach' bundle system you was talking about? But I guess not

So are you looking at building the system yourself to clarify??

I'd invest in a B550 board personally to future proof better. And RAM I'd get a 3600MHz kit.

Did you mean to add both a 1TB NVMe and 1TB SSD? You could just get a single 2TB SSD (WD Blue) for less if you want 2TB storage. PSU is over priced, could get the Phanteks 550w for £30-40 less I believe.

2060S isn't great value for money tbh, the 5700 XT will perform better for £40 extra. Unless you really want Nvidia RTX just not great for the ££ it costs with 2060S.

Thanks, yes was looking at the Breach bundle but then thought it would be just better to build one myself and get a better spec, so looking at the best spec for around the £1k mark.... thought about getting the 1TB NVMe for O/S and main games and then the secondary 1TB drive for other lower spec games etc if that makes sense.... also got 3TB NAS box and Windows 2019 server / VMware (networking background). I'l compare the B450 and B550 also

 

[Sparx]

2060S really doesn't represent that great value for money, but if it's what you want...

I'd go for the below spec, using the new B550 mobo (which also has 2x M.2 slots) which would be better future proof. Also means you can put 2x 1TB NVMe drives in (SN550 are cheaper and no noticeable performance difference) and have no SATA cables/power lying around. Don't really see why you'd care to put different types of games on another drive though? Bit random! That's what drive partitions are for if you really wanted to do that lol

Case you can go with Lian-Li you looked at, or the Phanteks P500A I suggested is also a well reviewed case, whichever you prefer.

Same PSU for less money by Corsair that will do the same job well.

Also added an aftermarket cooler, which will do a better job than the stock one. You don't have to get it, stock one will be 'ok' but not ideal.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £175.99
• 1 x Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard= £154.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit= £82.99
• 1 x Palit GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER DUAL 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £349.99
• 2 x WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C)= £99.95
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P500 Air ATX Case Tempered Glass Satin Black= £89.99
• 1 x Corsair RM Series RM650 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020194-UK)= £99.95
• 1 x Arctic Freezer 34 eSports White CPU Cooler - 120mm= £29.99

Total: £1,183.79 (includes shipping: £0.00)
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[koshiuk]

Looking at getting this, looks good thanks all for you advise! £1,234.65 inc VAT, weird numbering / meant to be!

Is the CPU cooler really needed?

1 CP-3B9-AM AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail £175.99 £175.99
1 CA-78B-LL Lian-Li Lancool II Mesh performance Midi-Tower Case - Black £74.99 £74.99
1 CA-24R-CS Corsair RM Series RM650 650W '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply (CP-9020194-UK) £99.95 £99.95
1 MB-58V-GI Gigabyte B550 AORUS ELITE (AMD AM4) B550 ATX Motherboard £154.99 £154.99
2 HD-56L-WD WD Blue SN550 1TB NVME M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3 Solid State Drive (WDS100T2B0C) £99.95 £199.90
1 MY-4BW-CS Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit £82.99 £82.99
1 HS-071-AR Arctic Freezer 34 eSports White CPU Cooler - 120mm £29.99 £29.99
1 GX-35S-MS MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming X 8GB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card £399.95 £399.95

 

[Sparx]

It's not necessary but I'd highly recommend it, the stock cooler is a bit noisy and not great on temps. The Arctic one is quieter and keeps temps down better.

I see you chose to opt for a 5700 XT instead

 

[koshiuk]

It's not necessary but I'd highly recommend it, the stock cooler is a bit noisy and not great on temps. The Arctic one is quieter and keeps temps down better.

I see you chose to opt for a 5700 XT instead

ah ok
Yeah done my research on both cards 5700 XT v 2060 super.... not really going to hammer the ray tracing stuff yet so going for more hardcore power on the 5700 XT, and support the underling... lol.