I can see why you are saying the communicating aspect could be an issue but again that may just be down to the type of person he is not wanting to mingle with the others.
According to the OP, he went to his car for a smoke and
when he came back he reeked of weed, was bloodshot and avoiding conversation.
That alone implies a change from his normal state, meaning he's not that type of person, and strongly suggests that yes he was indeed stoned.
Actually, CBD isn't psychoactive. It will not get you high like THC will.
Well, these guys say it is... and they're even the ones who sell it:
https://www.cibdol.com/cbd-encyclop...erties-of-cbd-and-why-they-shouldnt-worry-you
"Research aside, we can confirm that yes,
CBD is psychoactive"
Also it doesn't have to get you 'high', it just has to affect you in a way that can result in detrimental behaviour or an actual incident... just like it would be with any other drug or medication, legal or otherwise.
That most individuals are most likely taking it for recreational purposes rather than under medicinal prescription, and are thus effectively
choosing to behave detrimentally, is only further condemnation... just like it would be with any other drug or medication, legal or otherwise.
Doesn't matter if it's caffeine, nicotine, sugar or what, the guy is on something and it's affecting him, threatening those around him and bringing the company into disrepute. The fact that it might be an illicit form of some substance or other only brings more charges and reasons for dismissal.
Now whether or not the person the OP's partner was complaining about was smoking CBD is another subject all together.
I don't think
what he's smoking is a factor at all...
He reeks, he looks like a bag of ********, his work has become sloppy, he is seeming not meeting his responsibilities, he's acting like a **** and it is adversely affecting those around him.
THOSE are what the OP's partner has the problem with.
If you had just smoked your first joint ever then no, i wouldn't feel safe.
Oh really? And why on Earth would that be, I wonder......?
It's perfectly safe, you know. It doesn't get you high, or anything. Look, here's a website that says so....
You seem to have this opinion that anyone who smokes turns into some form of zombie who is unable to function or turns into a rambling, incoherent fool. Maybe it stems from a lack of information or maybe it's just the desire to not know more, full stop.
Not at all.
I've had a few turns with it in several forms my own self, as well as a fair bit more experience watching other people and their antics. I've understood why The Delicate Sound Of Thunder is that good, and been so stoned that I actually started to
enjoy The Beatles!
I've seen stoned people create wonderful works of art and music... just as I've seen people 'green out' on Durban Poison. I've known people go on to much harder substances and ruin their lives as a gateway effect, I've picked up the pieces of more than one car crash, I've dodged a burst of automatic fire from someone who couldn't remember what state his weapon was in, and I've lost relationships to it.
Yes, some people can be fine with it. Others not so much. This guy is the latter.
As long as it is not having a negative impact on their work then it's of no concern to the employer if someone smokes. Again, as long as they're not smoking during working hours or being so cavalier that they are seen smoking wearing their works uniform even if out of working hours.
My view is not necessarily that of the government, although I have less tolerance due to my own experiences, but I believe that to be quite justified.
The issue in this thread is that all the things you mention in the quote above
are happening in this guy's case.
For something that can stay in your system for so long whilst not affecting your ability to carry out your job to a high standard getting the sack because of that seems unfair.
Until a
very reliable method exists to verify not only when something happened, but to prove beyond all doubt whether or not it's affecting you, there is no other option but a blanket ban.
While I will say your argument sounds quite reasonable and fair, that very same reasoning
should similarly see me allowed to own a lot of the firearms that are now banned in the UK... and for the same reasons by the same reasoning, I obviously
won't be allowed them!!
How is this 6 pages and no one has suggested talking to the individual in question ???
I don't think he
wants to talk... From the OP:
"he avoided conversation with her, he made his excuses, grabbed a drink and some snacks and went to bed for the night"
hes going through a hard time himself, maybe he would stop if he realised what an issue it was, maybe a quiet word asking him not to do it in work again or your be forced to report him would make his see sense.
Many workplaces have a zero tolerance policy toward drugs anyway, so he'd still have to be dismissed. He'd have been told about it before he started, so it's not like he has any excuse or reasons for leniency.
I think the most tragic aspect of all this is that someone still smokes weed, why not use a PAX3?
Because you're then effectively a vaper, which some would argue is even worse...!!