Advice on this system please

gandalf72

gandalf72

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Hi all, I am looking for some advice re the build below, please. What I am going to do hopefully is a bit of gaming - I am hoping maybe to get into elite online, love Skyrim, will probably play GTA and witcher.

I am also wanting to use it to study for Microsoft exams and want to try and set up a series of virtual PC's that will have server 2012/16 and then various client pc's. I am not really too sure on how to set this up and if it is possible to do that due to the reset factor though so if anyone has any knowledge on how to do that it would be much appreciated.

I have an old 3TB SATA drive that I hope to put into the new build an old unused version of windows 8 pro retail which I hope can be upgraded to 10 pro.

I am not sure if it will be cool enough temp wise to do what I am needing it to do ? any recommendations would be much appreciated.


This is what I am thinking of going for:
be quiet! Dark Base PRO 900, Silver, Full Tower Computer Chassis
Asus ROG MAXIMUS VIII EXTREME/ASSEMBLY, Intel Z170, EATX
Intel Core i7 6700K, S 1151, Skylake, Quad Core, 4.0GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo, 8MB Cache, 1
Corsair Hydro Series H115i All-In-One Extreme Performance CPU Cooler with 280mm Radiator
1000W Seasonic SS-1000XP Platinum Full Modular, 80PLUS Platinum DC-DC 120mm SanAce Silent Fan, ATX, PSU
512GB Samsung 950 PRO, M.2
Pioneer BDR-209EBK Blu-ray Writer Quad Layer
Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 AMP Extreme Edition 8GB GDDR5X 2560 Core VR Ready Graphics Card with LED Lighting
2* 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance LED, PC4-24000 (3000), Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 15-17-17-35, White LED, XMP 2, 1.35V


Thanks in advance folks
 
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Hi

What is your budget for the pc ? Do you already have a good monitor ?

Also do you plan to SLI in the future ?

You need 64GB Ram ? I don't have any knowledge about VM's so someone else will have to answer your question on that.
 
Hi, I am not planning on sli at a later date. I may change the operating system to a server 2016 which is why I was going 64. 32GB is probably where the VM's should be at as I am thinking of running about 5 VM's 2 server plus 3 client. I am trying to come in as close to £2700 as I can.

At present the plan is to hook it up to a plasma that is only 1080 but hope to move to a 4k TV shortly just not done any research yet. Any monitor recommendation would be great. Obviously that would be on top of the 2.7k price

Currently as it stands:

Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive
Stock Code HD-216-SA
10+ In stock
1
£299.99*
£299.99*


Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX
Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (4x16GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit - Black (CMK64GX
Stock Code MY-464-CS
2 In stock
1
£319.99*
£319.99*


Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 AMP Extreme Spectra RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card (ZT-P10800B-1
Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 AMP Extreme Spectra RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card (ZT-P10800B-1
Stock Code GX-102-ZT
Free shipping 3
Pre Order
1
£695.99*
£695.99*


Seasonic P Series 1000w '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply
Seasonic P Series 1000w '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply
Stock Code CA-016-SS
10+ In stock
1
£189.95*
£189.95*


Pioneer BDR-209EBK 16x BDRW Multilayer 128GB retail
Pioneer BDR-209EBK 16x BDRW Multilayer 128GB retail
Stock Code CD-086-PO
2 In stock
1
£64.99*
£64.99*


Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060027-WW)
Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060027-WW)
Stock Code HS-035-CS
9 In stock
1
£124.99*
£124.99*


Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
Stock Code CP-581-IN
10+ In stock
1
£329.99*
£329.99*


Asus Maximus VIII Extreme Assembly Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 EATX Motherboard
Asus Maximus VIII Extreme Assembly Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 EATX Motherboard
Stock Code MB-682-AS
3 In stock
1
£479.99*
£479.99*


be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Full Tower Gaming Case - Black
be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Full Tower Gaming Case - Black
Stock Code CA-11B-BQ
6 In stock
1
£209.99*
£209.99*

OC Price is £2716


Thanks for your reply and questions.
 
It's massively overkill.

Get yourself a standard ATX - or smaller - motherboard, a standard 450W-550W PSU, and 16 GB RAM

And get yourself a separate machine for running the server OS and the VMs.
 
Yes I totally get where this review is going and personally I have never bought a board over £150. I have no overclocking experience and was drawn to the one click overclock and dual nic plus wireless. The other key thing for me was the reinforced pci sockets as a result of the weight on the graphics card.

I have really gone back n forth between the z170 and the x99 board with 6900 processor. I am now at the stage where I have probably seen and reviewed so much I have got blindness fatigue by it all lol. That was why I thought come on here and see what the experts thought and maybe give me some ideas as to where I am going wrong as I suspect that I am.

I would really like the pc to do me a good 4-5 years minimum so would like the board and processor to be as future proof as it can. Yes I know that does not stack up given boards are due out in a few months but my current PC is on its last legs (2008) and hard drive smart errors so its time to bite the bullet and get a more modern pc lol.

As I say any recommendation that can help me would be appreciated folks and thanks for all questions so far I really appreciate them.
 
Thank you very much, folks for your replies. I will have a look in the morning but wanted to say thank you tonight to you as I appreciate all the advice given. I was ironically looking at the giga board g7 previously but didn't see the bundle deal lol.
 
Here is an X99 build.

Fractal R5 has sound insulation material. The corsair RMi is also a very quiet power supply and comes with a 10 year warranty.


My basket at Overclockers UK:

Total: £2,171.83
(includes shipping: £0.00)
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Claim £70 cashback:

https://toptechcashback.com/gb/en/pages/cpumb/qualifying

£30 Steam voucher:

http://g1.gigabyte.eu/uk-steampromo-ug.aspx
 
Lee thanks for the above.

In terms of the difference between my build, your build, and Micky's build what offers the most future proof option?

In terms of the x99 board option vs the z170 build option, what is the real benefits from choosing one over the other?

Thanks folks really appreciate all your help.
 
gandalf72 said:
Lee thanks for the above.

In terms of the difference between my build, your build, and Micky's build what offers the most future proof option?

In terms of the x99 board option vs the z170 build option, what is the real benefits from choosing one over the other?

Thanks folks really appreciate all your help.
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The i7 5820K as mentioned above has two extra cpu cores so if you are doing cpu intensive work then it should be a better option than the 4 core 6700K. It is still a good cpu for gaming as well although the 6700K probably edges at stock speeds.
 
lee32uk said:
The i7 5820K as mentioned above has two extra cpu cores so if you are doing cpu intensive work
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He's going to be training for Microsoft certifications, so the number of cores should be maximised so as to run as many VMs as possible. Fortunately they don't need to be beefy cores so one or more old dual quad core Xeon servers off Fleabay should be more than adequate.

Edit: looking at Fleabay just now, you can get a dual Xeon quad core server with 16 GB RAM (64 GB max) for under £100, a 4 Xeon box with 36 GB RAM for £140, and a box with 8 Xeons with 96 GB for £400. All would be better for running VMs than the OP's gaming PC.
 
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Quartz said:
He's going to be training for Microsoft certifications, so the number of cores should be maximised so as to run as many VMs as possible. Fortunately they don't need to be beefy cores so one or more old dual quad core Xeon servers off Fleabay should be more than adequate.

Edit: looking at Fleabay just now, you can get a dual Xeon quad core server with 16 GB RAM (64 GB max) for under £100, a 4 Xeon box with 36 GB RAM for £140, and a box with 8 Xeons with 96 GB for £400. All would be better for running VMs than the OP's gaming PC.
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Like I mentioned in my initial post I have no knowledge about VM's and that sort of thing. I also queried the amount of Ram. Buying 2nd hand kit off the auction site is also a bit of a lottery.

If he is looking for an i7 setup then it is a choice between Skylake and Haswell-E/Broadwell-E. If he can make use of the extra cpu power now or in the future then X99 is a the better option.
 
Hi Guys thanks for your advice, if I am going for a x99 system I need to up my budget. The one key thing that I would like is as much future proofing as possible to last me at least 5 plus years.

I then need in this particular order the system to be able to :

Function primarily as a leisure PC that I can use to study as and when required.
For VM's I need 2 network cards.
I would like 2 m.2's and ideally latest thunderbolt 3 / with backup HDMI 2.0 should my graphic card go belly up.
I would ideally like as many USB 3.1 Type-C Type A as possible.
I would like it as easy as possible to get into overclocking but at present I have never done that.

I am comfortable with the graphic card for when I get the chance to play games on the PC.

What I am looking for is your opinions on have I got it future proof for the time frame that I need it to firstly and secondly if I have picked a wrong part and one that you think would be better without going more than 20 plus or minus on the part I would like to hear your thoughts.

It is clear from what is above that we now are pointing towards the x99 instead of the z170x and thank you very much for that as I said earlier I have been going back n forth over these 2 boards and could not get it in my head which way to go.

I think that I need to add a 1tb SATA drive for the VM pcs as it will be too slow read write on the standard 3tb that I was going to stick them onto. I have now come up with the following alternative and wondered if you would give me your opinion on it please.



Quantity Stock ID Description Price Total
1 HD-216-SA Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive £299.99 £299.99
1 GX-102-ZT Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 AMP Extreme Spectra RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card (ZT-P10800B-1 £695.99 £695.99
1 CD-086-PO Pioneer BDR-209EBK 16x BDRW Multilayer 128GB retail £64.99 £64.99
1 HS-035-CS Corsair Hydro Series H115i Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (CW-9060027-WW) £124.99 £124.99
1 CA-11B-BQ be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Full Tower Gaming Case - Black £209.99 £209.99
1 MY-452-CS Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-21300C16 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK32GX4M2A2 £199.99 £199.99
1 CP-615-IN Intel i7-6900K 3.20GHz (Broadwell-E) Socket LGA2011-V3 Processor - Retail (BX80671I76900K) £949.99 £949.99
1 MB-68C-AS Asus X99-Deluxe II Intel X99 (Socket 2011) DDR4 ATX Motherboard £369.95 £369.95
1 HD-183-SA Samsung 512GB SSD 850 PRO SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-7KE512BW) £179.99 £179.99
1 CA-028-EA EVGA SuperNova P2 850W '80 Plus Platinum' Modular Power Supply £142.99 £142.99
£3238.86
 
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