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Advice Required: CPU upgrade from a 5930k to? i9 LGA 1151 vs i9 X299

Radox-0 said:
This all depends on what your currently limited in terms of performance. I would first check your current performance and where your limitation actually lies. So use something like MSI afterburner to check if typically the CPU or GPU is the limit in games you play. Generally speaking If your gaming at 1440p 60hz, then a new CPU may not actually change things as the 5930k overclocked is still a smashing CPU. If it’s a higher refresh rate 1440p panel or your showing as CPU bound, then yeah, a stronger CPU may show some benefits in order to deliver a higher FPS (at like for like settings and resolution, a higher refresh rate panel will place a higher load on the CPU in order to prepare more frames and deliver more info to the GPU).

In regards to x299 and mainstream, posts above largely cover it. With that I own both a 7980xe and 8700k and both overclocked and on high refresh rate panels do a smashing job. With the x299 CPUs however it means more hand holding in terms of tweaking the mesh clock speed, but also learning each individual core behaviour. I say that as once you learn each core behaviour you can tweak them individually. For that reason I can run a few cores at 5 GHz. A few more at 4.8 GHz and rest at 4.6 GHz which means for gaming I have the benefit of 5 GHz yet for multithreaded work loads is still a monster. Point being most bench’s and what have you tend to use a all core overclock on high core count CPUs and have it set at that across the board when in reality for gaming you can have another couple of cores to much higher to extract that little bit more performance for games. With that said mainstream is still the best really (8700k / 9900k etc) being able to do higher clock speed and with the architecture, but just pointing out if you tune x299 CPUs they still perform very solid for gaming and I have 0 issues when I decide to game on my 7980xe rig and high(ish)refresh rate panel.
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hey Radox thanks man

sorry i just dont have that much knowledge in over clocking and measuring benches that well

I know how to build a pc so this will be my 3rd one

if i get a i9 9900k right now can you please recommend me a motherboard that will cover all the below:

1 gpu
1 sound card
1 wifi adapter
1 m.2
2 SSDs
4 HDDs

then i have

All RGB Corsair:

Keyboard
mouse
usb led headstand
usb led mouse mat
Xbox controller
Apogee Groove DAC
USB Head set, not always used
2 portable HDDs 4tb each


if there is not enough usb ports back and front i can get a splitter right?
 
hobib_ali said:
hey Radox thanks man

sorry i just dont have that much knowledge in over clocking and measuring benches that well

I know how to build a pc so this will be my 3rd one

if i get a i9 9900k right now can you please recommend me a motherboard that will cover all the below:

1 gpu
1 sound card
1 wifi adapter
1 m.2
2 SSDs
4 HDDs

then i have

All RGB Corsair:

Keyboard
mouse
usb led headstand
usb led mouse mat
Xbox controller
Apogee Groove DAC
USB Head set, not always used
2 portable HDDs 4tb each


if there is not enough usb ports back and front i can get a splitter right?
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What refresh rate are you at? You can check how your limited by firing up something like MSI afterburner and checking CPU usage compared to GPU usage during your normal load usage. It will help to highlight where the limitation in your system may be, so may not actually need an upgrade if as mentioned your at 1440p @ 60hz.

In regards to if you do go ahead with 9900k, gigabyte has a nice range that looks like it ticks most the box's you listed, here is an example board https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-577-gi.html (but they do cheaper ones), most z390 boards will tick the box's you need also.

Checking the manual, you will be fine to use one of the M.2 slots fine with 6 SATA devices (need to check this point in particular with boards as usually some M.2 slots disable SATA slots and you need to have 6 devices). It similarly has enough USB header's but can get a Hub if need be.
 
Radox-0 said:
What refresh rate are you at? You can check how your limited by firing up something like MSI afterburner and checking CPU usage compared to GPU usage during your normal load usage. It will help to highlight where the limitation in your system may be, so may not actually need an upgrade if as mentioned your at 1440p @ 60hz.

In regards to if you do go ahead with 9900k, gigabyte has a nice range that looks like it ticks most the box's you listed, here is an example board https://www.overclockers.co.uk/giga...cket-1151-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-577-gi.html (but they do cheaper ones), most z390 boards will tick the box's you need also.

Checking the manual, you will be fine to use one of the M.2 slots fine with 6 SATA devices (need to check this point in particular with boards as usually some M.2 slots disable SATA slots and you need to have 6 devices). It similarly has enough USB header's but can get a Hub if need be.
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i have a 1440p 2560x1440 at 166gz, its the 32 inch LG panel

I will get a wide screen or a 4k very soon to

so usb hub to increase usb devices

i will prioritise my 4 HDD and 2 SSD of that saves me some pcie lanes i wontr get a m.2 then, im gonna have a look at the board now
 
hobib_ali said:
i have a 1440p 2560x1440 at 166gz, its the 32 inch LG panel

I will get a wide screen or a 4k very soon to

so usb hub to increase usb devices

i will prioritise my 4 HDD and 2 SSD of that saves me some pcie lanes i wontr get a m.2 then, im gonna have a look at the board now
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You may see a difference in that case if your currently CPU bound on the higher refresh rate panel. However I would wait until you decide on your monitor. Given your moving to what I assume is a 4k 60hz screen, you will most likely be GPU bound rather then CPU bound in which case there will be no real difference to what you see.

As I say, best way to really determine if you may see a performance uplift is to understand where you current performance limit in terms of CPU or CPU.
 
hobib_ali said:
i have a 1440p 2560x1440 at 166gz, its the 32 inch LG panel

I will get a wide screen or a 4k very soon to

so usb hub to increase usb devices

i will prioritise my 4 HDD and 2 SSD of that saves me some pcie lanes i wontr get a m.2 then, im gonna have a look at the board now
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A threadripper system with 64 lanes might suit your needs.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JDF4QP2/ref=psdc_229189_t2_B0754JNQBP

But, I suggest you wait for the Next gen which is sked the second half of 2019.
 
Following this thread with interest as I'm in the similar situation with a x79/4960X/1080ti I've had for years

I was going x299/i9 but have also been looking at AMD's, not sure which to go for either!
 
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