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Air coolers cannot compete at the higher end of heat, not sure why people keep debating it. Would anyone use a D15 on a X299 platform?
AIR vs AIO. 18c drop in temps
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Interesting.
Obviously your 'best cases for air' is not true. Just because you have lots of intake and exhaust fans does not mean you have good airflow. Good airflow is all flowing from one side to opposite side of case. 3x intakea dn3x ehxuast fans is lots of air blowing around like cloths in a washing machine .. obviously not supplying air near room temp to NH-D15 .. and every degree warmer than room air into cooler is translates into same degrees hotter CPU will be at same fan speed.
Again, something isn't right with your comparison because lots of reviews have te4sted both NH-D15 and H150 with both having near identical temps. Most likely problem was your case airflow was not supplying cool air to NH-D15 like you think it was .. or maybe you had a bad seat.
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@unkzilla thanks for sharing your findings and details.
Not a surprise. At the high end, newer AIO’s pull away.
Not a surprise. At the high end, newer AIO’s pull away.
More like you are both wearing water blinders so he can't/won't see the truth about top tier air coolers being every bit as good or better than CLCs when supplied air at simialr temp .. costing less money .. lasting way longer .. as proven over and over when accurate test procedures are used so both radiator and air cooler are receiving same temperature air to their fans. Biggest problem is most users have no idea what the temerature of air is going into their coolers. That and comparing tempatures and not looking at how much louder CLCs usually run to get same or lower temps than air coolers .. or as above, have no idea what air temp into cooler was, only that case had 'good airflow' with no idea what the actual air temperature into cooler is ..
No, newer AIOs (are they really AIO or actually CLCs??) and only marginally better than they were 8 years go. Biggest changes are from 240m rad to 280mm and 360mm, but pump flow rates are still no better then health adult can urinate. And like I said, when compared at same noise levels they cool near identical. Put hi-performance / high cfm fans in case with similar on top tier air cooler so air cooled system is making same amount noise and air is just as good as CLC.[/user]
Gotta laugh at your attempt to mislead with baited post, then removing / editing out the horse blinders.
If you can, post accurate test results that show CLC beinng 10c better than top tier air .. testing that records air temp into cooler / radiator at same time as CPU temp is recorded as well as cooler noise level so we can really compare air to CLC.
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Case temps do play a role so having two graphics cards in the case is going to be detrimental to the temps using an air cooler. Problem with reviews they use open air benches so when you actually come to use in a case the temp is going to be worse. This is unlike an AIO that should be using air from the outside.
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Nice bump of thread, thought I had seen last of its BS. 
Funny how any good review sites will not show 10C+ gains in favour of these AIO's in these tests, the D15 and similar are all up to in the charts within a degree or so from each other.
Funny how any good review sites will not show 10C+ gains in favour of these AIO's in these tests, the D15 and similar are all up to in the charts within a degree or so from each other.
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Wow 5.2 @1.30v. I can't get near that
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Yeah but I can see why they test it that way to control the variables and not having to update their test environment over time.
Even then this toms review of the KS shows a good like for like using 3 tiers of cooling: https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/reviews/intel-core-i9-9900ks-special-edition-review
You can see that under a decent load the D15S hits tjmax and starts dropping frequency. Expand that to a more stressful load and that tjmax will just be hit faster while there’s more overhead to be had with the AIO.
Custom loop naturally being even better.
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come on - don't be posting facts to back up your claim. That isn't how the air cooler fan boys like things
There are a lot of cases that have 3x or more 140mm intake and 3x or more exhaust venting in the front and bottom and out the back and top easily flowing all the cool air CPU & GPU or CPU and 2x GPUs coolers can use within a couple degrees of room temp under 100% load. The cost of top tier air cooling and case fans is still less than most CLCs cost, and air cooling lasts much longer with less cost than CLCs as well. It's only cases not designed for air cooling, setup improperly .. or not set up at all to flow air needed by components that run hot.
Can you please link to pages with 'like for like using 3 tiers of cooling'? I looked at 10 page index and see nothing about coolers or cooler test results.
Where are theses facts backing up claim? Please post links to actual results with test procedure, or links to them.come on - don't be posting facts to back up your claim. That isn't how the air cooler fan boys like things
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I know this batted around a lot so I figured I'd share my findings. The results are below and everything is exactly the same in bios. The air cooler was cleaned. All fans are 100% I use realbench not because of some magic reason. Only because I knew I could run it just shy of throttling the CPU on air.
Settings:
9900k
HT OFF
5.2ghz
1.305v in bios
z390 aorus pro
Turbo LLC
46x core
Case = haf x with side panel off
Dark Rock 4 results:
Alphacool 360LT results:
This is a really late bump, but this site did help me in my decision and thought I'd add to this. I have near identical setup:
9900k
HT Off
5.2Ghz clock
Voltage: Auto (1.30 to 1.39)
Side panel off
2080 Ti
3x120mm front intake
2x240mm top
1x120mm rear
I have a Noctura NH-D15 Chroma.black. Using RealBench, 15 minutes up to 8GB of RAM I saw 87 degree package max & 166w max. Probably going with 360mm AIO for my next build I'm sizing up now. Thinking of Corsair 150i Elite to get the look, but that is more personal taste than anything.
Hope this helps anyone else who might stumble upon this.
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LOL what a thread.
I went from a Fuma 2 to a 360 AIO and it's a better cooler for cooling Ryzen too.
Oh well, sucks to be those who hold their AIR coolers as the best ever.
I went from a Fuma 2 to a 360 AIO and it's a better cooler for cooling Ryzen too.
Oh well, sucks to be those who hold their AIR coolers as the best ever.