Airlines to start weighing passengers..

Amp34 said:
No, people are pointing out that bags are charged extra over an arbitrary weight limit, whereas all people are charged the same whether they are 50 or 150kg. If one is based on weight why should the other one not be based on weight as well?
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Because a 100kg person doesn't require carried onto the plane by baggage staff.

If you take up 2 seats, pay for 2. Otherwise weight is insignificant.
 
The Craig said:
Because a 100kg person doesn't require carried onto the plane by baggage staff.

If you take up 2 seats, pay for 2. Otherwise weight is insignificant.
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Which is why there is a32kg weight limit on baggage...

If weight is insignificant why is weight limited to 20-23kg?
 
Efour said:
I find it funny that people assume that lighter people will fly cheaper. In reality you will pay the same as now and the one or two fat/bigger people on the flight will potentially pay a nominal fee more.

No ones fares are ever going to go down.... :) Its just another potential revenue scheme.. Nothing more or less. Oh and of course a good reason to bash big/heavier/fat people in absence of a good Muslim hate thread.
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Of course you'll pay the same. The only difference is smaller people will get more luggage allowance.

The main point I'm arguing here is the disparity between being charged extra for baggage, ostensibly because of higher fuel charges, but not being charged extra for the person weighing more.
 
What I'm going to do is set up a business where light people can sell their allowance for heavier people at a reduced rate to what the airline charge. I'm going to be rich!!!! ;)

I accept weight is relevant but it normalises/averages out. Things which are controllable are luggage weight. So we should focus on luggage weight as we already do.

As Amp suggested. 1 seat 1 bag. That's then fair and easier to manage and predict.
 
How much weight can say a 737 -400, actually carry before its "too much" ?
Do they actually burn much more fuel when empty compared to 50% full ?

Its interesting i guess someone here is geeky enough to know the facts at hand :P
 
Grimley said:
Only a matter of time before the likes of Ryanair starts doing this methinks. If so I'm going on the ferry & train.
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nah Ryanair are trying to get rid of seats completely and make everyone to stand during flights, just think how many people they can squeeze into a plane if you don't need to think about the seats :eek:
 
pinkowl said:
The baggage allowance is around 23kg due to the fact that it is a weigh that the people working lifting these bags should be able to easily lift.
Now you can weight 60kg and take a 1 or 2 extra kg and pay more and a person next to you weighs 100kg and has no extra and yet overall weighs more but the people lifting the bags arent lifting you so how much you weigh should not matter. Its the fact you are making them having to lift more than they should that costs you. The plane wont really save any fuel if your bag weighs 23kg instead of 24 or if the person weights 100kg instead of 60kg.

However if there would be a charge for larger people I hope they give them bigger seats as no matter how little the small person paid for tgeir flight they shouldnt have to lose half of their seat for a bigger peson.
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That doesn't really make sense, if it's because of a h&s reason due to the weight how does money fix it? Guys still got to lift it.


And if he has to lift bags that are 30kg but have paid the "fine" does he get the money or the airline?
 
Efour said:
How much weight can say a 737 -400, actually carry before its "too much" ?
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62,820kg.

Do they actually burn much more fuel when empty compared to 50% full ?
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Yes - there are some routes where the airline has to block off a number of seats and fly with vacant seats in order that the aircraft has sufficient range - eg Houston to Sydney.

Weight is the enemy of low fuel consumption.
 
as a few of us have said who arnt short if we have to pay more due to our natural weight does this mean we get a bigger seat, we all know the answer to this, not a chance in hell.
 
GAC said:
as a few of us have said who arnt short if we have to pay more due to our natural weight does this mean we get a bigger seat, we all know the answer to this, not a chance in hell.
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You can get a bigger seat/extra leg space for a small fee at some airlines, for example Wizzair...

They're hardly unreasonable, EIN>WAW was 40 euro's both ways, or 5 euro extra per way for extra leg space iirc.
 
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Efour said:
How much weight can say a 737 -400, actually carry before its "too much" ?
Do they actually burn much more fuel when empty compared to 50% full ?

Its interesting i guess someone here is geeky enough to know the facts at hand :P
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The Max Take off Weight (MTOW) of a 737-400 is around 62000kg (62 tonnes).

A 737-800 like Ryanair uses, has a MTOW of around 79000kg. The weight of the aircraft without any fuel or load (passengers, bags, cargo etc) is around 42000kg.
You then have a Max Zero Fuel Weight which is the maximum the aircraft can weigh without any load. The 737-800 is around 61000kg leaving apx 19000kg available for passengers, bags etc.

The heavier the load, the more fuel the aircraft will use.
 
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