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Alder Lake IPC?
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Corrected to highlight who they also are for some that don't know and also the fact they are Nvidia shills too.
I love the way in text they say AMD's IPC has been "Dethroned" and then on the chart its 99% vs 100%
Ryzen 6000 will get an IPC jump by virtue of its L3 Cache expansion alone, certainly an average of 15% in games.
With a more mature process and some minor tweaks they will probably boost the clocks a little too
@Grim5 the chart you put up shows about 10%, not 35%. stop it.
alder lake is impressive based on the tech they using. the new cpu layout with p cores and e cores have small ipc gain but the main performance comes from higher boost clocks. once amd push 6000 series that ipc intel has just gained will be lost but intel do have better latency, higher boost and ddr5 so intel will mostly win in cpu intensive games until latency is fixed and ddr5 comes on amd cpus.
Not sure, the 5800X and 5600X did pretty well in games, in my opinion, AMD was ahead in gaming and overall performance until Alder Lake was released. Latency didn't seem to affect these CPUs that much in games, they have more cache than the 11th and 10th Intel generations. They don't support RAM over 3600Mhz at the moment though if I recall correctly, which I think will have to change for the next gen, to compete with DDR5.
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They can support RAM with a 1:1 ratio (any other ratio adds a lot of latency) up to 4000MHz, but only a very small percentage of chips are capable of that. Both the 5800X and my current 5900X have run nicely with 3800MHz RAM at a 1:1 ratio however. Intel clearly still has an advantage however.
The CPUs have impressed me, it's great to see what competition has done to the market. I can see AMD retaking the gaming CPU crown with the 3D cache chips, although there will be outliers like Age of Empires IV where Alder Lake does supremely well for some reason.
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One of the few games that is actually predominantly CPU bound.
The thing is, it's quite easy to increase CPU utilization in games, just by dialling down the resolution to 720p, or even lower. Same thing also happens when DLSS is used, more CPU utilization. I've found this effect seems to be even greater in DirectX 12 games.
Maybe someone could try this with AOE4?
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I'd updated the 1st post to reflect different IPC benchmark results found here:
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9974/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-cpu/index.html
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/9974/intel-core-i9-12900k-alder-lake-cpu/index.html
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