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Alder Lake-S leaks

4K8KW10 said:
Have you tried to update the BIOS?


Anyways, if a 65-watt Intel CPU matches the 105-watt AMD CPU, then very hard times are coming for AMD.

AMD might be screwed.
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Grim5 said:
I can do this and yes it definitely helps - but the cpu is then slower than the 3950x it replaced in anything that's multithreaded and there is my conundrum, why did I buy the 5950x if it's slower than the 3950x which was 100% stable with PBO and heavily overclocked memory
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The 5950X is faster than the 3950X across the board, 10 to 25% faster. https://www.techspot.com/review/2131-amd-ryzen-5950x/

Look, i'm not being funny with you but you're telling me a Zen 3 CPU is slower than a Zen 2 CPU with the same number of cores and you think its a problem with the product rather than with you or your system, what in your mind do you think i think about that?
 
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NZXT30 said:
I want AMD to go back to being the cute bang for buck brand so I'm rooting for Intel this round.
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People seem to have short memories on here!

How much was Intel asking for a 7960 on release? £1600 + IIRC, 10 core was 900 ish
There 18 core was 2k + i believe, Yet AMD have a 16 core at half that price a people complain. :confused:


Regards the latest leak I hope it's true, about time Intel came up with something. Given there shear amount of resources they have at their disposal their answer to AMD should have came years ago.

If they have we will be back to £1.5k 16 core CPUs again and everyone will be happy I guess.
 
Grim5 said:
I can do this and yes it definitely helps - but the cpu is then slower than the 3950x it replaced in anything that's multithreaded and there is my conundrum, why did I buy the 5950x if it's slower than the 3950x which was 100% stable with PBO and heavily overclocked memory
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Has to be something up with your settings. I am running Crosshair VIII Formula, 5950X and RAM at only 3200. Cinebench R23 Multithreaded 30629 and single threaded 1636. All cores turbo past 5Ghz
 
humbug said:
Why does everything you write read like a WCCF headline? You know there is a reason people think they are a joke. People don't have any respect for WCCF.
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It means Where Consumers Come First, users are only being confused because they don't understand that site but it is the first site to go in order to see some hot, breaking news, not available anywhere else or hidden behind paid walls as is the case with Charlie's S|A, for example.
 
humbug said:
The 5950X is faster than the 3950X across the board, 10 to 25% faster. https://www.techspot.com/review/2131-amd-ryzen-5950x/

Look, i'm not being funny with you but you're telling me a Zen 3 CPU is slower than a Zen 2 CPU with the same number of cores and you think its a problem with the product rather than with you or your system, what in your mind do you think i think about that?
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Yes because my 3950x can run with PBO fine which makes it much faster than your benchmark. And when PBO is off my 5950x gets a lower cinebench r20 score than your benchmark. The problem is the product, it's being back to the pc store and they've replaced multiple components including putting in new cpu, I'm on my 3rd 5950x actually. And I didn't overclock or do the settings myself, all of it is setup by the store I use - so if you think a builder who puts together $5k custom PCs all day doesn't know what they're doing then that's fine
 
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humbug said:
Whats your R20 score on the 3950X?
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around 9800 with PBO on for the 3950x
Around 9300 with PBO off on 5950x
Around 11000 with PBO on for 5950x - but WHEA crashes galore

And I know why the 5950x with PBo off is slower than the 3950x with PBO on - it's mainly the clock speed, with PBO off the 5950x sits at 3.9ghz all core in R20 which is quite low but it's still pulling the full 140w it's allowed
 
4K8KW10 said:
I have a 5900X, all I can say for now is CPU-Z - 9900 in multi-thread and 660 in single-thread.
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Aww... crap not you, my mistake. It was meant for Grim5.

Grim5 said:
around 9800 with PBO on for the 3950x
Around 9300 with PBO off on 5950x
Around 11000 with PBO on for 5950x - but WHEA crashes galore
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Should be over 1000 for the 5950X at stock, its under-performing and there could be any number of reasons for that but system memory aside given CPU's don't perform worse at the same clock speed my guess is that's what's wrong, it could be cooling, voltages set too low or even too high.

Have you tried running a negative curve optimiser?
 
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