None of this is dependent (in principle) on the type of firearm either (aside from the specifics of how you can apply the safety, ensure the weapon is safe etc..) and why would you have three different firearms in your possession at once?
Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
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None of this is dependent (in principle) on the type of firearm either (aside from the specifics of how you can apply the safety, ensure the weapon is safe etc..) and why would you have three different firearms in your possession at once?
On a film though they'd always have something (fake/dummy round) in them though or else it would be obviously empty for the close ups right?
And again if he's expecting blanks he opens the gun he sees the back of the round that's what he'd expect
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It's irrelevant. If you are handling a weapon you should be instructed in its use. Part of that will be to how to confirm a round is chambered.
Cause you're a badass doing a single extended cut unloading all of them and it saved me typing 3 scenes of hand over
And you just killed your fellow actors because round 3, 15 and 8 were all acidental live rounds and you "only checked the chamber".
This. The film is a western so likely a revolver (although I don't think any information has been released on the projectile or the firearm used), and he was told it was cold, so it would appear to have some sort of dummy round in it anyway.
So what do you do when there is meant to be a blank chambered?
Colt dragoon according to the press atm
What if its a revolver with dummy rounds (purely for appearances sake)?
Regardless, this is all still the responsibility of those who handed Alec the gun and told him it was safe.
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Nice, IIRC it's Josie Wales' choice of firearm.
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You visually inspect the round. If there is a magazine present you also release it and carry out a visual inspection of the rounds present there too. Typically you can see if enough to see if the first few at least are live or dummies.
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No, it wouldn't, they're contained in a drum and easily observed.
Why not check when loading the magazine in the first place?
That's kind of missing the point - he was expecting the firearm to be "cold" not with rounds of any type, i.e. he wasn't expecting it to fire! (not that he should have been pointing it at anyone regardless).
You load a blank??? I'm really not sure why you're struggling with this or trying to make it difficult as though no one who has used firearms has ever considered things like weapons saftey before?
Re: the other post and a live round being mixed up in among a magazine of blanks - that's a different issue but rather rarer, the issue with mixing live and blanks is more likely to be something dumb like one being in the breech or someone having one in their pocket/picking one up off the floor at night and putting it into the top of the magazine. (if your rifle was previously made ready and you then need to make safe or strip it down and clean it then a round is ejected for example).
You solve that by being rather careful with loading them, not much excuse on a movie set, you can do it in plenty of light, you're rather less likely to accidentally happen to find a live round among your possession or on the floor in the pitch dark etc..
No this is you assuming what cold meant on that set.
It could mean blank or dummy too with it beinga revolver.
Checking a round is there or not is in no way a safety check when you are expecting a blank or dummy to be there.
Only if you're expecting a completely empty unloaded gun.
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Worth noting we never ever passed a loaded weapon to someone else. You confirm yourself it is unloaded. You then demonstrate using the correct procedure to the person you're passing the weapon on to and receive positive feedback that they accept its clear before passing it on.
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You don't just check the presence of the round. You check the round. Its really not hard.
And that's fantastic at a firing range with a gun that's either empty or loaded with a live bullet.
It's passing useless with a gun that's meant to have a fake bullet in it though
So unload the entire gun every time.
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Hence why you eject and inspect the chambered round...