Alex Jones..

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:43

KillBoY_UK said:
Me personally Far right and left peeps no matter how ridiculous they are should remain, only when it breaks a law a video/post etc should be considered to be removed

Inciting violence is against teh alw, which is why youtube has banned Alex Jones

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:44

D.P. said:
Do the videos consistently break youtubes T&Cs?

No idea, I don't report video's unless it something illegal. Even if its illegal we know can be hard to get a image or a video pulled down from facebook or youtube

doodah · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:44

I believe YouTube's issue was that he consistently broke their T&Cs.

hominid · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:47

I'm no fan of Alex Jones, but to wipe his account from the 'net is not the right thing to do. If you don't like what he's saying DON'T WATCH IT!

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:49

D.P. said:
Inciting violence is against teh alw, which is why youtube has banned Alex Jones

If that's the case then rightly so but Will the peeps calling for are did violently attack people like The quartering and alike should and have they been banned from social media as well?

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:51

KillBoY_UK said:
If that's the case then rightly so but Will the peeps calling for are did violently attack people like The quartering and alike should and have they been banned from social media as well?

I have no idea what you are talking about but if there are videos incting violence then eys, they should also be removed.

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:52

hominid said:
I'm no fan of Alex Jones, but to wipe his account from the 'net is not the right thing to do. If you don't like what he's saying DON'T WATCH IT!

It has nothing to do with not liking him.

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:52

KillBoY_UK said:
No idea, I don't report video's unless it something illegal. Even if its illegal we know can be hard to get a image or a video pulled down from facebook or youtube

So how do you know they should be removed?

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:56

D.P. said:
So how do you know they should be removed?

I think the post you quoted already makes clear my POV, I presume you missed read "I don't report" for "I don't watch"?

Roar87 · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:58

Moses said:
That it was a false flag op, then that no one actually died/it was all made up with actors etc.

Ok so looking into it, he checked the crime records for Newtown in 2012 and no murders were reported, but the murders had actually been reported on a different register because it was investigated by the state Police rather than local Police. So his claims were false, but he did have a reason as to why he said it.

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 15:59

KillBoY_UK said:
I think the post you quoted already makes clear my POV, I presume you missed read "I don't report" for "I don't watch"?

If you don'r report them then how do you know they wont be removed?

D.P. · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:00

Roar87 said:
Ok so looking into it, he checked the crime records for Newtown in 2012 and no murders were reported, but the murders had actually been reported on a different register because it was investigated by the state Police rather than local Police. So his claims were false, but he did have a reason as to why he said it.

I don;t think there is a rolleyes big enogh :rolleyes:

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:04

D.P. said:
If you don'r report them then how do you know they wont be removed?

As I mentioned other people do report far left videos and post and they don't get removed. It well know Social media are quite inconsistent on what is removed weather its political or not.

hominid · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:04

D.P. said:
It has nothing to do with not liking him.

I know, it's to do with censorship.

YT have a virtual monopoly in the sector and have overstepped in banning him. People may be mass flagging his accounts but it's not always for valid reasons, this mob mentality has got to stop - but it won't now because they will become emboldened due to getting a big win with this ban.

As I say, I don't like him, it's all about free speech for me. He's not inciting terrorism, but he is a popular figure and I do agree that the timing, of all the bans, are suspiciously close to the US midterm elections - so I could see a way that this is politically motivated.

StriderX · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:09

hominid said:
I know, it's to do with censorship.

YT have a virtual monopoly in the sector and have overstepped in banning him. People may be mass flagging his accounts but it's not always for valid reasons, this mob mentality has got to stop - but it won't now because they will become emboldened due to getting a big win with this ban.

As I say, I don't like him, it's all about free speech for me. He's not inciting terrorism, but he is a popular figure and I do agree that the timing, of all the bans, are suspiciously close to the US midterm elections - so I could see a way that this is politically motivated.

PRIVATE COMPANY.

No offence but please stop saying otherwise, it's incredibly boring. And to make matters more egregious, you're a UK citizen, you don't have freedom of speech.

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:10

hominid said:
I know, it's to do with censorship.

YT have a virtual monopoly in the sector and have overstepped in banning him. People may be mass flagging his accounts but it's not always for valid reasons, this mob mentality has got to stop - but it won't now because they will become emboldened due to getting a big win with this ban.

As I say, I don't like him, it's all about free speech for me. He's not inciting terrorism, but he is a popular figure and I do agree that the timing, of all the bans, are suspiciously close to the US midterm elections - so I could see a way that this is politically motivated.

You have put it abit more eloquently than I have.

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:11

StriderX said:
PRIVATE COMPANY.

..with a monopoly. You can still disagree with it can't you?

StriderX · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:13

KillBoY_UK said:
You can still disagree with it can't you?

Of course, feel free to stop using youtube, that's all you can do as a free citizen against a private corporate enterprise with it's product. It's strangely left wing to think that a private company needs to bow to whims of misguided attempts to believe their freedoms mean anything inside a dictatorship. It's the only way the internet even functions.

Avenged7Fold · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:15

YT are a private company and have been throwing out restrictions and bans on accounts for loads of reasons.

If they walk as slippery slope as people on this forum suggest, then there will be plenty of other platforms that would jump at the chance to host such popular people and new platforms will rise from YT folly.

Also... freedom of speech?

KillBoY_UK · 7 Aug 2018 at 16:17

StriderX said:
Of course, feel free to stop using youtube, that's all you can do as a free citizen against a private corporate enterprise with it's product. It's strangely left wing to think that a private company needs to bow to whims of misguided attempts to believe their freedoms mean anything inside a dictatorship. It's the only way the internet even functions.

#Floatplane

The thing is StriderX I am left on some things and right on others, which is why voting these days is such a pian in the balls as stuff is so polarised and there is no centre party anymore