Alfie Evans...

some politicians seem to be jumping on the bandwagon and and going along with the populism of the Alfie's Army rent a mob - guess which party this guy is from:

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And after all, Alfie have been in hospital continuously since December 2016. There must be something really really bad going on in him if he hasn't been out of hospital for almost 1,5 year.
 
Stephen Hawking got a few decades in with a functional body before his particular neurodegeneration crippled him. No cure even for someone this high profile.

This kid has symptoms of neurodegeneration at the age of 1...
 
I am sorry but the world has gone ******* mad!

When did we start listening to the average joe over medically trained people?

Why do MPs have to stick their oar in? What do they know about anything?

When did it become okay to incite a riot?

There is something new every week or month these days where you sit down and think wow what the **** are they going on about?
 
Yes it is, you can't be simultaneously capable of breathing on your own and also require assistance in order to breathe.

yes you can, if your own breathing isn't getting sufficient oxygen then it might need to be supplemented... you're trying to be pedantic for no reason here

the state he was in at the time was that he was breathing on his own, he didn't have oxygen... he apparently needed oxygen - there wasn't anything incorrect there
 
yes you can, if your own breathing isn't getting sufficient oxygen then it might need to be supplemented
Which means you are not capable of breathing on your own. If you require oxygen tanks to assist your breathing so you don't die that means you require assistance to breathe, this isn't exactly complex...
 
Which means you are not capable of breathing on your own. If you require oxygen tanks to assist your breathing so you don't die that means you require assistance to breathe, this isn't exactly complex...

I'm really not sure what you're trying to argue here but you're making no sense

if someone is inhaling and exhaling air then they're breathing

if they are doing that unaided then they can be said to be doing so 'on their own'

he apparently did so for 5 hours last night

he is now being supplied with oxygen

you've quoted me twice to make some non point when all I've done is make some factual posts, there is nothing for you to correct, you're attempting to be pedantic but with no reason
 
I am sorry but the world has gone ******* mad!

When did we start listening to the average joe over medically trained people?

Why do MPs have to stick their oar in? What do they know about anything?

When did it become okay to incite a riot?

There is something new every week or month these days where you sit down and think wow what the **** are they going on about?
These days everybody is told that their own stupid opinions mean something and should be respected by everybody else. Hence we live in a world where everybody os offended about everything and believes everyone else is wrong and should change their views to be in line with themselves.

Everybody is turning into a narcissist.
 
I'm really not sure what you're trying to argue here but you're making no sense
It made perfect sense, I pointed out that your statement was an oxymoron, claiming he was both breathing on his own while simultaneously being dependant on assistance to breathe.


you've quoted me twice
Well it would only have been once to point out the correction if you hadn't chosen to try and argue the point >.>
 
It made perfect sense, I pointed out that your statement was an oxymoron, claiming he was both breathing on his own while simultaneously being dependant on assistance to breathe.

no you just misread it, he wasn't on oxygen... you even cut out the bit of my post when quoting it stating that the hospital won't allow it

the parents have posted Facebook updates saying he's breathing on his own but needs oxygen and the hospital won't allow it... and of course there is the obvious outrage in the comments section, people offering to bring oxygen down to the hospital themselves if the ******** won't allow it etc..

he was breathing on his own, without oxygen...

there is nothing for you to be pedantic about, you've just misread a post and seem to want to repeatedly quote me to argue the toss over it
 
no you just misread it
I'm not sure what you're having difficulty understanding here /sigh. You claimed that he was breathing on his own but needed an oxygen tank to breath, they are mutually exclusive, you cannot be capable of breathing on your own AND require assistance to breath because you can't breathe on your own.

I was simply pointing out that one of those statements must be false (due to the mutual exclusivity).


he was breathing on his own, without oxygen...
So it was the latter that was false, hence my point.
 
I'm not sure what you're having difficulty understanding here /sigh. You claimed that he was breathing on his own but needed an oxygen tank to breath, they are mutually exclusive, you cannot be capable of breathing on your own AND require assistance to breath because you can't breathe on your own.

I was simply pointing out that one of those statements must be false (due to the mutual exclusivity).



So it was the latter that was false, hence my point.

I'm not entirely sure you understand what breathing is.
 
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