All New Summer 2008 Transfer Merry Go Round/Rumour Mill

Source: Setanta

Sevilla president Jose Maria del Nido has confirmed receiving and rejecting an offer from Tottenham for sought after winger Diego Capel.

Del Nido revealed the offer was in excess of a release clause in the 20-year-old’s contract but because that stipulation only applies to Spanish suitors, the Andalucians were able to reject Spurs’ advances.

Juande Ramos has been strongly linked with a raid on his former club for Capel, but Del Nido’s declaration is the first public confirmation of Spurs’ interest.

Del Nido told Sevilla's official website: “He has a clause in his contract which is only valid for a Spanish team.

"We do not negotiate with any figure less than that.

"Tottenham made a superior bid and we said no.”
 
Tunney said:
£12mil seems to be the figure quoted. I'd be tempted to take it if we've got someone else lined up to replace him.
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Pretty decent from Spurs point of view (yes you have lost £4m or so in one season, but he played very few games and is only going to be a squad player)

Cant see why anyone would want to spend £12m on him though - nice guy (never seems to cause any problems) but just cant see him being worth it


Never heard a release clause figure being met but being refused because the offer is international - usually you DONT want to sell to your league competitors


Edit - theoretically Henry was on the verge of a transfer to Utd before the Euros, before the new Barca manager persuaded him to stay, so I cant see why that would change now
 
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G|mp said:
Rooney needs to start playing the Cantona role, playing where the **** he likes and playing off a proper striker who doesn't move

Then we will start seeing the Rooney we all expected to see
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But if you're gonna have a player do that, use Tevez. Tevez is better at holding the ball up, doesn't lose his head, is fitter and has more guile and craft in his short passing.
 
NokkonWud said:
But if you're gonna have a player do that, use Tevez. Tevez is better at holding the ball up, doesn't lose his head, is fitter and has more guile and craft in his short passing.
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They are both better at playing the second striker role, you're just going all anti Rooney again
 
FrankJH said:
Its unbelievable how anti-rooney you are
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No I'm not. I'm being honest.
I've stated here many times after games whether he had a good game or not, more often than not he's not been up to the standards I expect. You seem quick to forget many things.

FrankJH said:
he was played out of position more often than Tevez without a shadow of doubt, and he worked his ***** off every single game
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I never said he wasn't. However, Rooney does himself no favours by not getting back into position, dropping too deep and leaving no one up front. Tevez worked just as hard, if not harder (look at Barcelona, Tevez was phenomenal in the win - Rooney was a passenger in the draw). Tevez has much better forward positioning, often making himself available higher up the pitch.

FrankJH said:
Its funny how one of the greatest manager's ever in this country doesnt agree with you (as Rooney is rarely subed before 70 minutes if at all) and yet he plays sooooo badly according to you he isnt worth his place - admittedly you didnt say that but fromm what you write it appears that way
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When you only have 2 fit strikers then they both play, it's simple really. Rooney is a good player (which I've said), but his performances weren't of a standard good enough on many a game this season gone. Often his passing has been off, his tackling reckless, his movement none existant and his finishing laughable.

FrankJH said:
So you think that while on holiday just because they arent getting photographed (having "THE" wedding of the summer doesnt help Rooney in this case) others arent getting drunk etc - you arent that naive surely!!!
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Some won't be, they are total professionals. Players like Carrick and Hargreaves are fitness machines, you never see them struggling at the end of matches.

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edit - Tevez is 18 months older, had around 5 more club appearances and one more goal last season compared to Rooney and yet he is much better for the team - apart from Tevez having fewer injuries last season there isnt anything to split them (unless you want to count the longer trips Tevez had to do for Argentina against the England trips for Rooney) - there is nothing in it at all
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It was also only his second season in England, his first season at Man Utd and he had absolutely no pre-season.
 
G|mp said:
They are both better at playing the second striker role, you're just going all anti Rooney again
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I am NOT anti-Rooney. However I do believe Tevez is a better short passer with more craft to his game. Rooney is a better long passer and he is used correctly, getting outwide and sliding balls across the box.
 
NokkonWud said:
I am NOT anti-Rooney. However I do believe Tevez is a better short passer with more craft to his game. Rooney is a better long passer and he is used correctly, getting outwide and sliding balls across the box.
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It was tongue in cheek ;)

I will add though that i don't want our second striker holding the ball up anyway, that's the job of the main striker ie RvN, Sparky etc

If we buy a main striker with Rooney and Tevez playing off him we would be pretty much sorted imo
 
lol, re-reading it I should have known :(. I feel like a fool.
Sowwy sir Gimpeh.

I see what you mean about a SS striker, we do in fact utilise it differently to a lot of continental teams (in that our SS supports and our ST/Wingers attack), but it's certainly a system that works. Our SS's both have the ability to slide that ball in from outside the box, or ship it out wide for a cross. I like the way we use it, and we're blessed that if one SS isn't doing it well, the other can try and step in, but we don't have a lot of variation, so if those aren't working and Ronaldo is marked out, we struggle (such as against Spurs and Blackburn), so I'd like a front man in, but I worry that it may be Berbatov, the bloody rumour won't disappear, I'd much rather it be a Huntellar, Aguero or alternatively, bring in someone who will play an SS role the way you want it and allow Rooney/Tevez to play right up top, someone like Jorge Valdivia for example (he wouldn't be much, clearly has bags and bags of ability - why no one has signed him I don't know) or a Messi.
 
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Some of your posts are just nonsense imo.
Tevez a better short passer? :S
Once you get a notion in your head about a player you just wont let go, you're like a dog with a bone.
 
He's a better long passer without doubt. Tevez is a better short passer and creator. (I'm not saying Rooney is a bad one - please don't forget that).
 
NokkonWud said:
Some won't be, they are total professionals. Players like Carrick and Hargreaves are fitness machines, you never see them struggling at the end of matches.


It was also only his second season in England, his first season at Man Utd and he had absolutely no pre-season.
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and yet with a handful less matches, several bad injuries Rooney still scored basically the same amount of goals - but according to you he is much worse

Are you forgettting the two or three sitters Tevez didnt put away in Moscow?

You give reasonable defence to Tevez (by the middle let alone the end of the season, any pre-season shouldnt be relevant anyway) but you dont allow for the numerous injuries Rooney had which stopped and started his season.

There is no reason why Rooney and Tevez cant be as EQUALLY effective as they where last season

Thanks Gimp, Im glad Im not the only one
 
No offense lads but all the talk about how 'great' the United players are, is incredibly boring.

This is a transfer thread not a 'omg rooney passes 32yard passes better than tevez'.

Make a United thread or something?
 
Some real silly transfer prices being bandied about this close season, players like Keane,Crouch are nowhere near what the papers claim, even Barry ffs.

Esp when you consider what 'pool paid for Torres last season.
 
That's what happens when you try to buy from a league with so much money going around it.

Anyway, never mind that - back to Rooney.....:p
 
NokkonWud said:
He's a better long passer without doubt. Tevez is a better short passer and creator. (I'm not saying Rooney is a bad one - please don't forget that).
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Tevez might create something through sheer hard work (i.e chasing a defender down somewhere near their own goal until they make a mistake, turn the ball over to Tevez who in turn plays a simple ball for someone to tap in), but in the true (footballing) sense of the word Tevez has zero creativity.
 
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