All time best EPL team?

Tombstone said:
Nah, I dont need to weigh up the balance because all I am doing is picking the 11 players I would want wearing my shirts from the EPL era, I am not picking a team to play week in and week out for 5 seasons. Hence I am not going into balance, formations, tactics, playstyles, training schedules, managers, coaches, set pieces and so on. :)
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Then what is the point at all?

I could pick a pretty mediocre side that would rip yours to bits in that case, just because they are organised ;)
 
G|mp said:
Then what is the point at all?

I could pick a pretty mediocre side that would rip yours to bits in that case, just because they are organised ;)
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Precisely, for example someone mentioned Matt Le Tissier earlier, someone who I think was incredibly skilled, but he didnt win medals. Xabi Alonso is another who is universally regarded as incredibly skilled but didnt win medals. Sometimes the top players dont happen to play for the top teams. That was kind of the point I was making with my first post that I thought we were supposed to pick players based on their skill, not based on the teams they played in.

However, if thats not right then I will happily name 11 arsenal and utd players instead. Wouldnt want to do things wrong after all :)

Here is my amended 11.

Schmeichel

Irwin
Ferdinand
Adams
Neville
Giggs
Keane
Vieira
Ronaldo
Rooney
Henry

That should be more appeasing :)
 
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Tombstone said:
Precisely, for example someone mentioned Matt Le Tissier earlier, someone who I think was incredibly skilled, but he didnt win medals. Xabi Alonso is another who is universally regarded as incredibly skilled but didnt win medals. Sometimes the top players dont happen to play for the top teams. That was kind of the point I was making with my first post that I thought we were supposed to pick players based on their skill, not based on the teams they played in.

However, if thats not right then I will happily name 11 arsenal and utd players instead. Wouldnt want to do things wrong after all :)
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Now come on don't throw your toys out the pram.

You can include who you like but at the end of the day it's a team to play football, MLT would be great in any team but the fact is he was a lazy **** and for that reason he doesn't make many teams. Plus the fact there has been several better midfielders than him ;)
 
Tombstone said:
I was trying to stay faithful to the format that everyone else was picking. Sorry if I was wrong to do so, I will try harder in future to be right.
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Yes, and that format involved picking a team, not just "picking the XI players from my era that I wanted to see wearing my shirt", or as I'd have said, you'd have just picked eleven creative, attacking players.

The point isn't that you picked Gerrard here, it's that your completely lacking in a defensive midfielder of any kind. Why not just admit that and say "yeah sod it we'd play like a Keegan team", rather than changing your mind on what the team is supposed to be?

Good to see you playing the "it's my ball and I'll take it home with me" approach to disagreements again.
 
Tombstone said:
Here is my amended 11.

Schmeichel

Irwin
Ferdinand
Adams
Neville
Giggs
Keane
Vieira
Ronaldo
Rooney
Henry

That should be more appeasing :)
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That's more like it, at least players are playing in their proper positions :p

I would swap Rooney out for RvN though. See it looks better already because you're not trying to shoehorn in mediocre Liverpool players.
 
I'd actually quite like a "Best EPL team that has never won the league" thread. Now THAT would make much more interesting picks.
 
G|mp said:
Now come on don't throw your toys out the pram.

You can include who you like but at the end of the day it's a team to play football, MLT would be great in any team but the fact is he was a lazy **** and for that reason he doesn't make many teams. Plus the fact there has been several better midfielders than him ;)
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Ah but then was he lazy because of his coaches, manager, tactics and fellow team mates? So dont we then have to take all that into account and name our coaches, manager, tactics and so forth as well? Also werent we supposed to be naming people based on their prime? Not their lazy periods?

As I say, theres an amended 11, I hope that is more suitable for the forumers/forumettes

Baa.

:)
 
Weebull said:
Yes, and that format involved picking a team, not just "picking the XI players from my era that I wanted to see wearing my shirt", or as I'd have said, you'd have just picked eleven creative, attacking players.

The point isn't that you picked Gerrard here, it's that your completely lacking in a defensive midfielder of any kind. Why not just admit that and say "yeah sod it we'd play like a Keegan team", rather than changing your mind on what the team is supposed to be?

Good to see you playing the "it's my ball and I'll take it home with me" approach to disagreements again.
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I havent taken the ball home? At least I still see the thread here. Knew I should have just left you on ignore, there are some on the forum that I enjoy banter with, DM for instance. You though, I just plain dont like. Best that we just dont talk to each other, thats the wonder of the internet , you dont have to talk to people who you dont think are worth it. Back on ignore for you.

Now thats throwing my toys out of the pram. :)
 
Tombstone said:
Ah but then was he lazy because of his coaches, manager, tactics and fellow team mates? So dont we then have to take all that into account and name our coaches, manager, tactics and so forth as well? Also werent we supposed to be naming people based on their prime? Not their lazy periods?

As I say, theres an amended 11, I hope that is more suitable for the forumers/forumettes

Baa.

:)
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Yeah, LeTiss was lazy because of managers and coaches, did you ever watch him play? He was great when he wanted to be, normally against MU and Newcastle at the time, pretty god damn average against anyone else.
 
G|mp said:
Yeah, LeTiss was lazy because of managers and coaches, did you ever watch him play? He was great when he wanted to be, normally against MU and Newcastle at the time, pretty god damn average against anyone else.
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Yeah, at times he was quite spellbinding with the ball. Bit like a british Zola :D
 
G|mp said:
And then in the next game goes missing for 90 minutes, like the old quote goes, "can he do it on a cold Wednesday night in the Brittania" ;)
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Could we not say that of many "top" players though? Arent we picking people based on their prime, not on their gone missing games?
 
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