Alternative to Gmail

Westyfield2 · 25 Jan 2015 at 18:20

Skeeter said:
I use 365 at work and it's awful

Out of interest, what have you found wrong with it?

AGD · 25 Jan 2015 at 18:40

Juicy_vessel said:
Gmail to me is faultless. Seems the industry atandard these days. What's not to like?

I don't take anything else as serious.

Some people would prefer their email service was the product rather than themselves (and their friends) being the product.

I don't want google to read all my emails and I really dislike advertising.

My email costs me about £10 a year which is likely less than my personal data is worth so I see it as a good deal.

nutcase · 25 Jan 2015 at 18:58

dowie said:
just use outlook with gmail then surely?

Gmail does NOT play well with outlook

Mynight · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:13

AGD said:
Some people would prefer their email service was the product rather than themselves (and their friends) being the product.

I don't want google to read all my emails and I really dislike advertising.

My email costs me about £10 a year which is likely less than my personal data is worth so I see it as a good deal.

It's hardly like the keyword bot is going to gossip at the watercooler about your fetishes

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Out of interest who do you use?

Skeeter · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:17

Westyfield2 said:
Out of interest, what have you found wrong with it?

Through god knows how many itterations and attempts Microsoft have never been able to make a web Outlook client that works. When it's not randomly disconnecting or crashing, its clunky, slow and unintuitive. I've not had a chance to really work with it in a browser outside of IE yet, is that still a mish mash of missing features and deliberate incompatibility?

When using the proper Outlook and Lync client it's great (actually, Lync is always awful), but the web clients are terrible and as I'm often using customers PCs rather than my own laptop I'm forced into it. My current gripe is it randomly not allowing me to copy and paste into an email I'm composing.

Skeeter · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:21

Mynight said:
Out of interest who do you use?

Presumably his own server in a datacentre he runs, through SSL tunnels only he uses to send emails to only a whitelist of people he has established a secure VPN with.

Because if not, something is still reading his emails.

Mynight · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:25

Skeeter said:
Presumably his own server in a datacentre he runs, through SSL tunnels only he uses to send emails to only a whitelist of people he has established a secure VPN with.

Because if not, something is still reading his emails.

Clearly not enough security there. Amateur

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It's all about pen and paper then driving it round to post.

Skeeter · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:31

Mynight said:
Clearly not enough security there. Amateur .

It's all about pen and paper then driving it round to post.

Then burning it once the recipient has read it

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I don't get the whole hate against advertising. I don't get the hate for targetted ads even more. I get loads of awesome services for free by allowing ads, and those ads are even only showing me stuff I'm interested in! Its a win win!

I'd much rather that than have to pay for everything.

Mynight · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:38

I personally like targeted advertising. I hate the indiscriminate blanket, popup, video, screaming loud adverts.

If a site is just using banner ads that are relevant to me then I'm all for earning them a few pennies.

Bald-Eagle22 · 25 Jan 2015 at 19:59

You could always use one of mine ,,,, [email protected] the ladies love it.

memyselfandi · 25 Jan 2015 at 20:02

Skeeter said:
Google Apps isn't, the service where you add your own domain and manage it through Google.

Until a few years ago it was free for personal use, but now its all paid (£3.30 per user per month).

Unless you had a free account ... Then it is still free just without some of the newer features of the current paid offering (has the same limitations as it had originally)

lazieb · 25 Jan 2015 at 20:29

Been using Hotmail forever!

Skeeter · 25 Jan 2015 at 21:04

memyselfandi said:
Unless you had a free account ... Then it is still free just without some of the newer features of the current paid offering (has the same limitations as it had originally)

Yep, I have 2. One of my own and one for my mum to host email for a local club.

But if the OP wanted to get in on it now he'd have to pay.

peige · 26 Jan 2015 at 07:50

nutcase_1uk said:
What winds me up the most about gmail is how they merge email chains together on their apps, and it also seems to lose sent items a lot (no I don't delete them).

Turn off "conversations" in settings

AGD · 26 Jan 2015 at 10:41

Mynight said:
It's hardly like the keyword bot is going to gossip at the watercooler about your fetishes .

Out of interest who do you use?

runbox.com - based in norway so not part of five eyes. It's not about gossip at the watercooler!

I'd just prefer not to sell my private (or public) life to advertisers.

Skeeter said:
Presumably his own server in a datacentre he runs, through SSL tunnels only he uses to send emails to only a whitelist of people he has established a secure VPN with.

Because if not, something is still reading his emails.

Yes, my emails can be intercepted by the NSA and GCHQ. But I'm not part of PRISM, and no advertisers see my emails so it's much better than gmail.

Mynight · 26 Jan 2015 at 10:52

Interesting. I hadn't heard of them before. To be fair I only use gmail for my Google Adsense/webmaster account everything else is done through my own domain.

I note you don't deny the fetishes aspect

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Westyfield2 · 26 Jan 2015 at 11:09

Skeeter said:
Through god knows how many itterations and attempts Microsoft have never been able to make a web Outlook client that works. When it's not randomly disconnecting or crashing, its clunky, slow and unintuitive. I've not had a chance to really work with it in a browser outside of IE yet, is that still a mish mash of missing features and deliberate incompatibility?

When using the proper Outlook and Lync client it's great (actually, Lync is always awful), but the web clients are terrible and as I'm often using customers PCs rather than my own laptop I'm forced into it. My current gripe is it randomly not allowing me to copy and paste into an email I'm composing.

Ah right, yeah OWA has always been poor on local Exchange servers too.

DaleTheWhale · 26 Jan 2015 at 11:24

@OP, just add a couple numbers at the end of your name i.e. [email protected]

At the end of the day, it's just an email address.

DiscoDave · 26 Jan 2015 at 11:35

As long as you're not using

[email protected] then a standard firstname.username[n]@gmail.com address is fine for CV's. I've always used my [email protected] address for job applications.

Armageus · 26 Jan 2015 at 11:37

nutcase_1uk said:
What winds me up the most about gmail is how they merge email chains together on their apps, and it also seems to lose sent items a lot (no I don't delete them).

One setting to change this - "Conversation view on/off", personal preference really, half our users at work like it, the other half hate it. In conversation view, replies get grouped with the original email - turning it off, they remain under the Sent label.

Skeeter said:
I've no idea if Google Apps even does resources calendars for stuff like meeting rooms in the way Exchange does?

Yes it does - you can share personal calendars with other users, or you can have dedicated resource style calendars as well.

Skeeter said:
It seems nothing beats good old Outlook..

We migrated from an internal exchange server and Outlook (2007 at the time) to Gmail and have never looked back - Outlook seens so old-fashioned in comparison, and Gmail (or presumably office 365) are light years ahead in doing simple things like accessing email anywhere and how you want to (want to use a mail client - you can, want to use a browser - you can, want emails pushed to your phone....)