Am I right to be annoyed at this? (work situation)

Haggisman said:
I'm not sure "got away with it" is the wording I'd use (makes it sound like I tried to rip them off or something), but I understand the sentiment.
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I hear you, but you did kind of agree to the outcome even if it was delayed, you made a short term gain, followed by a mid term loss, if the timing doesn't suit then yeah you should go back and take it out of next years holiday allowance, or a different month of pay.

Being reasonable it does kind of read like you didn't ask about it and just assumed you had been gifted it, so in some ways "getting away with it" could be accurate. I wouldn't blame you, but you could have more directly queried it when it wasn't taken earlier in the year if you wanted certainty.

It's hard to say whether you should get compassionate leave or not, but that may depend on your employer as it wasn't leave for yourself.
 
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HungryHippos said:
This I would agree with, if you're off sick it's sick leave not annual leave.

I don't think I've tested this or had the need to, but pretty sure my workplace has a policy where if you book holiday and then get sick on leave, you can get the holiday back!
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That's not a policy it's the law.
 
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Shouldn't it have been logged as dependency leave which in most cases is paid

Or can't you offer to work the 2 days back as overtime
 
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It is annoying and a bit of a dick move on behalf of your employer. Not much you can really do about it though so don't let it eat you up.

Just remember when they come asking for a favour to repay it in kind.
 
Semple said:
It is annoying and a bit of a dick move on behalf of your employer. Not much you can really do about it though so don't let it eat you up.

Just remember when they come asking for a favour to repay it in kind.
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This is pretty much my exact feeling about it. There's really no point saying anything to your employer (unless you can point to something explicit in your contract about dependency leave, but I doubt it will say what you want it to). They haven't done anything "wrong" contractually/legally, but noting the circumstances many would expect their employer to look out for them and provide compassionate leave. Just keep it in your back pocket that they haven't over and above you and perhaps start exploring opportunities at a different company. However, you also need to zoom out and take a wider perspective if generally the company has been/is good to you, as you need to recognise this might be down to a single person that doesn't have much empathy and/or hasn't properly considered the circumstances.
 
Roar87 said:
I think if your company valued it's employees they would give you the time off paid, in future treat them in kind and consider looking for alternative employment.
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This was pretty much my feeling. I colleague of an otherwise very average company where holidays etc were concerned gave a colleague about five weeks off to deal with his kids serious heart surgery. A company this petty is one that doesn't give a small one about you. Polish your CV.
 
If a member of my team had this situation I would give them paid leave. Although I work for a huge global company who can afford it, although there is a policy for things like this after a certain point is it "manager discretion". I wouldn't be a dick and I would pay it. Different matter if it was constantly being off with a cold etc and sick pay was exhausted....
 
While they are entitled to claw the money back it's not good practice to leave the employee struggling so tell them to set up a payment plan to pay it back over a few months or so.
 
Tell them to ram it, plenty of work out their now and I sure you would find somewhere else and for more money.
 
Scarfacé said:
However, you also need to zoom out and take a wider perspective if generally the company has been/is good to you, as you need to recognise this might be down to a single person that doesn't have much empathy and/or hasn't properly considered the circumstances.
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I think this is most likely the case tbh - they've been pretty understanding in the past, (although that was under a different team leader who was definitely more on the ball - to the point he basically forced me to have a week off on compassionate leave after we lost a baby a few years ago), and flexible with allowing me to bring leave forward last year after needing to spend 2 weeks with the little one in intensive care with pneumonia, so I can't really complain too much.

It's more the fact it was completely out of the blue and took me by surprise.

Cheers for the comments guys, has helped put things into perspective :)
 
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