Am I right to be annoyed at this? (work situation)
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It seems like a bit of a rubbish move by your employer.
Where I work, there is a compassionate leave policy that would have covered a scenario exactly like this. It's done at the managers discretion but I would imagine any decent manager would allow paid time off for this.
Where I work, there is a compassionate leave policy that would have covered a scenario exactly like this. It's done at the managers discretion but I would imagine any decent manager would allow paid time off for this.
At the very least I'd be having a chat with HR about seeing whether you can get the repayments spread over multiple months..... although I have this idea in my head that you are maybe entitled to sick time when it relates to a young child (chat with a union rep if you have one maybe). Actually it might be an idea to have a direct chat with HR over the entire topic because they might not know the full story etc....
At the end of the day, even if nothing is changed, this was an error on their part, that they've taken several months to rectify, and while you're (un)happy to pay the money back it is incredibly short notice for you to be losing 2weeks days pay in one go.
At the end of the day, even if nothing is changed, this was an error on their part, that they've taken several months to rectify, and while you're (un)happy to pay the money back it is incredibly short notice for you to be losing 2
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2 days not 2 weeks afaik.
My bad, misread that bit... I'll edit. Doesn't change much in my view though.
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Wait, is this the same roar that licks elons boots?!
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Well 2 weeks pay missed you'd probably want it spread out a bit. 2 days, rip the plaster off imo.
Business relationships work both ways though, this isn't a contradictory position
What a naff company.
I don't know if you've seen my old thread about my son at birth but I had over 3 months off all full pay without them even questioning it. No meetings or anything just a we understand family comes first take all the time you need and keep in touch, of I need anything else just ask.
Like others have said it's something I would remember and return the favour in kind.
I don't know if you've seen my old thread about my son at birth but I had over 3 months off all full pay without them even questioning it. No meetings or anything just a we understand family comes first take all the time you need and keep in touch, of I need anything else just ask.
Like others have said it's something I would remember and return the favour in kind.
Tell that to all the folks at Big tech companies that have plenty of free lunches (and breakfasts and dinners and snacks).
I'm not au fait with UK employment law anymore, but every employer that I've worked for in the USA honors taking care of family as a legitimate reason to take paid sick leave.
Good employers tend to have a sensible (and generous) compassionate leave policy.
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I got snowed in for 1 day back in February 2018 and had to take that as unpaid as I have already used up my annual leave. The deduction got taken out of my April pay instead of February. This is NHS. Annoying at the time but had to suck it up.
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I don't see a problem, if someone uses up their anual leave it's just right that the work place deducts a days pay, doesn't matter which month pay it's taken from IMO.
Fair enough to be annoyed, but - assuming you wish to continue with the company - it's the kind of minor administrative stuff up you pretty much have to swallow and get on with it. You can ask to have the deduction delayed to after Christmas, but it's not going to hurt much less then.
However, I agree with those saying you consider looking for a different employer. Any decent employer would have allowed you to take paid time off because your 2-year old child is undergoing serious surgery.
However, I agree with those saying you consider looking for a different employer. Any decent employer would have allowed you to take paid time off because your 2-year old child is undergoing serious surgery.
Yeah, as posted, it's not going to leave us struggling, so would rather just get it out of the way, but maybe no 7900XTX birthday present for myself this year
Total dick move by the employer. I'm surprised there's so many here telling him to "suck it up". Perhaps his employer should have realised their mistake and "sucked it up" and moved on, no? There's a vast difference between a company (even a small one) being out of pocket due to an employee's extra day off, compared to said employee missing out on 2 days pay. As said below, it should be compassionate leave, no question.
Yes. In fact when I had eye surgery at the beginning of this year my girlfriend was asking her manager about taking two days off (annual leave) to get me there and back and look after me. Her boss laughed and just said don't worry about it, no need to take it as annual leave. Just take the day off (i.e. compassionate leave). And I'm in my thirties, not exactly a 2 year old!
The mind boggles how companies get stuff like this so wrong, in the OPs case.
Yes. In fact when I had eye surgery at the beginning of this year my girlfriend was asking her manager about taking two days off (annual leave) to get me there and back and look after me. Her boss laughed and just said don't worry about it, no need to take it as annual leave. Just take the day off (i.e. compassionate leave). And I'm in my thirties, not exactly a 2 year old!
The mind boggles how companies get stuff like this so wrong, in the OPs case.
100%. A lot of folk have been truly brainwashed that they owe their employer a favour.
My work would almost laugh at me even asking if something like that came up, in a good way I mean... My boss would tell me to take all the time I needed and that it would be straight down as "dependants leave" and fully paid. I'm lucky enough to work at a place that do care for their employees really well.
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Because it's two different things.
Issue 1 is how the company handled the leave itself, you could argue that they could be more sympathetic and offer compassionate leave. I would tend to agree.
Issue 2 is how the agreed outcome is handled. In this case the OP originally agreed to 2 days unpaid leave, and is now having 2 days unpaid leave a few months later. In and of itself it's not a wrong or right outcome, it's a result of Issue 1.
Whilst it's a dick move by the company to it now. The OP was a dick too.
He noticed that the agreed deduction hadn't been taken, by his own admission and didn't query it at the time. Had he done this then it would have been sorted in July.
He noticed that the agreed deduction hadn't been taken, by his own admission and didn't query it at the time. Had he done this then it would have been sorted in July.
