Am i the only one that thinks this is insulting?
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Happens all the time in IT. We're offshoring you job to a third world hell-hole cos they're cheaper than you, oh but we're sending you to said third world hell-hole for a couple of weeks to train your replacement. If you don't like it then you'll never work for us again and we won't give you a reference.
Sucks but unless you're planning a career change or retiring you have to do it
Sucks but unless you're planning a career change or retiring you have to do it
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Just train him FFS...no wonder they want you out. 
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Heh, I though throwing a brick though someones window and asking for it back was cheeky!!
Phate, you signed up as a temp. you shouldnt expect more than a temp role they've given you what was agreed, you might have been hoping to become permanently but its a good leason to learn that you should never believe anything until it happens. if i told you about where i work you'd realise there are worse places to work.. ever watch 'trouble at the top' the one about the caudwell group? where getting shafted is practically part of the job description
forget that job and move onto the next, if they were the kind of place that would shaft you then maybe your better off out of there, it does sound like your taking this personally when its more likely that it will simply work out cheaper to hire a new person if they dont have to pay a finders fee to your agency and it doesnt sound like you were doing specialist work so maybe cheap and cheerful is what they want
forget that job and move onto the next, if they were the kind of place that would shaft you then maybe your better off out of there, it does sound like your taking this personally when its more likely that it will simply work out cheaper to hire a new person if they dont have to pay a finders fee to your agency and it doesnt sound like you were doing specialist work so maybe cheap and cheerful is what they want
Mmmmm.
My company has recently decided to outsource (well, partly in-source) it's IT department and as such there are going to be a lot of redundancies. I feel sorry for all the developers/ops guys, with years of experience working for the company, who now have to hand over to a bunch of Indians by February.
Apart from the fact that it's a completely unrealistic timescale, and a plain bad decision full stop, it really rubs it in when you have to explain things to some guy who is stealing your job. One of the Developers who has been around for ages said that he had to go through a similar thing before, and that the Indian mentality was really offputting, they are all like "YOU MUST TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS." rather than showing any kind of tact as most people from our culture would.... could be a 'class' thing, I'm taking your job = I'm better than you.
My company has recently decided to outsource (well, partly in-source) it's IT department and as such there are going to be a lot of redundancies. I feel sorry for all the developers/ops guys, with years of experience working for the company, who now have to hand over to a bunch of Indians by February.
Apart from the fact that it's a completely unrealistic timescale, and a plain bad decision full stop, it really rubs it in when you have to explain things to some guy who is stealing your job. One of the Developers who has been around for ages said that he had to go through a similar thing before, and that the Indian mentality was really offputting, they are all like "YOU MUST TELL ME HOW TO DO THIS." rather than showing any kind of tact as most people from our culture would.... could be a 'class' thing, I'm taking your job = I'm better than you.
be a man and train the guy up ffs, oh and make sure you leave your manager a contact number for yourself, if the new guys blows it or decides to not bother then you might be top of the list for going back in being fully trained in the role and all that 
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Garrett said:
Oh be quiet.
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id demand some meetings with management at whatever level u can do.
sit down witht hem. ask them to explain the decision, and apeal to their senses.
did you know they were looking to hire non contract people in? did u apply for your own job?
sit down witht hem. ask them to explain the decision, and apeal to their senses.
did you know they were looking to hire non contract people in? did u apply for your own job?
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Not really fair though, if hes doing the job fine then he should at least be offered it first on a permanent basis, id tell em to **** right off and leave tbh, its what i did at my last job when they were making me do all the work with no help, stay till late etc... 
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This happened to me at the beginning of 2006 except my boss quite insultingly didn't even tell me the guy I was training up was my replacement, for the entire two weeks I was working alongside him I was purposefully lead to believe that we were training up a junior (as were several of my colleagues) I kinda twigged that something funny was going on when my boss started acting very tense around me, no surprise to me when on the friday afternoon my boss says I am being let go because I don't drive...
I said I'd get together my tools and stuff, which I did... Including all of the floppy disks I had purchased out of my own pocket and used to create all of the master and backup disks for the entire disk imaging system I'd spent the last 14 days training the guy to use...
Way I saw it they were too cheap to buy me disks to produce the tools I needed (I was expected to rummage through drawers full of ancient disks and find working ones) so I bought 20 odd floppies from a local store to do it on, they were mine ... most of the stuff I used was made at home or in lunch breaks to make MY job easier.
anyway I said good luck to them both on the way out of the door, Back to the stone age for them
I was waiting for quite some time for my boss to call me about the missing disks required to operate the imaging machine I had set up, so I could sell him the floppies at a brutal markup.
One of the beautiful things about that was the fact that I brought up the matter of my contract (which I hadn't properly read and was required to be renewed after a year) to which he triumphantly came back with 'actually you didn't renew your contract so we don't have to give any notice'
bit further down the line that one bit him on the arse too as I pointed out I had no contract and therefore no requirement to give him anything I had worked on outside of my normal working hours
I said I'd get together my tools and stuff, which I did... Including all of the floppy disks I had purchased out of my own pocket and used to create all of the master and backup disks for the entire disk imaging system I'd spent the last 14 days training the guy to use...
Way I saw it they were too cheap to buy me disks to produce the tools I needed (I was expected to rummage through drawers full of ancient disks and find working ones) so I bought 20 odd floppies from a local store to do it on, they were mine ... most of the stuff I used was made at home or in lunch breaks to make MY job easier.
anyway I said good luck to them both on the way out of the door, Back to the stone age for them
I was waiting for quite some time for my boss to call me about the missing disks required to operate the imaging machine I had set up, so I could sell him the floppies at a brutal markup.
One of the beautiful things about that was the fact that I brought up the matter of my contract (which I hadn't properly read and was required to be renewed after a year) to which he triumphantly came back with 'actually you didn't renew your contract so we don't have to give any notice'
bit further down the line that one bit him on the arse too as I pointed out I had no contract and therefore no requirement to give him anything I had worked on outside of my normal working hours
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Fair? You have a strange idea of how the business world works, don't you?LoadsaMoney said:Not really fair though, if hes doing the job fine then he should at least be offered it first on a permanent basis, id tell em to **** right off and leave tbh, its what i did at my last job when they were making me do all the work with no help, stay till late etc...
Garrett said:
I think he's suggesting that £200/week would be rather exorbitant given that Phate's current salary isn't likely to be a great deal higher than that anyway.
In fact I'd wager that the chances of any company paying a temp who they are letting go extra money under these circumstances are very slim.