Am i the only one that thinks this is insulting?

Many people cry out call CAB. They can't do anything. The best people to call are ACAS, they will look at your case, offer advice and help you with a tribunal if found to be unfairly treated or dismissed.

http://www.acas.org.uk/

I'll have a chat with my missus when she gets off the phone as she is a HR officer. She might have a few comments to make. A proper HR department works for the employees not management.
 
drew said:
Many people cry out call CAB. They can't do anything. The best people to call are ACAS, they will look at your case, offer advice and help you with a tribunal if found to be unfairly treated or dismissed.

http://www.acas.org.uk/

I'll have a chat with my missus when she gets off the phone as she is a HR officer. She might have a few comments to make. A proper HR department works for the employees not management.
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Make sure she's aware of this bit ....

Phate said:
I don't owe the company anything. I'm not even employed by them, I'm contracted by a job agency I could walk out now and they wouldn't be able to anything.
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Not being able to do anything rather cuts both ways with agency staff, and I can't see either HR or ACAS being able to do a thing about it. It's part of the territory with agency work. It seems to me that Phate has about as much chance with an industrial tribunal as my local garage has with me if I decide to get my car serviced elsewhere. The problem is, if Phate is agency, he isn't an employee, so he doesn't have employee rights and hasn't been "dismissed". They just no longer need his services beyond a given date or time-frame. But he can walk tomorrow with no comeback, beyond not getting a good reference, and perhaps ending up on the agency's poop-list if they do a lot of business with this company.
 
Oblivious said:
Whatever you do, don't burn your bridges.

Best advice ever given to me.
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Agreed.

Bridge-burning can be satisfying in the short term, but in the longer term, the only one that may really lose out is yourself.
 
HangTime said:
I think he's suggesting that £200/week would be rather exorbitant given that Phate's current salary isn't likely to be a great deal higher than that anyway.

In fact I'd wager that the chances of any company paying a temp who they are letting go extra money under these circumstances are very slim.
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I been trying not to make assumptions about his current salary.

If they want him to stay on and train the new guy then they place some value on him, all I meant is that Phate might be able to use this as leverage to get some money out of them - given that contacts are being renogiated etc. At whatever level he saw fit.
 
not sure how relevant this is but in Banking and IT temps don't usually get references....... temps usually get paid well and know they can get the boot at a weeks notice...... it's what tempings all about

start looking for a new job and train the guy as you would expect to be trained in your next job
 
No disrespect to the original OP but I got sacked because they found somebody less qualified willing to do the job cheaper : Stoke-on-Trent College :eek:
 
I think you took a bit of a liberty misrepresenting the facts here when asking for advice, at face value you had a great dispute but after the additional information provided it's a different story.

Agency staff are disposable, you clearly know you can walk at a moments notice if you want so why get agro about them being nice enough to give you a months notice and a reference ? If you don't like it then walk, but you will be poolisted from that firm and quite possibly the agency as well. Not that it'll make you feel any better but i've seen good people stand in roles that they did very well in then get shafted come the interview for the job even though they are great at it. As for trying to haggle extra payment for training someone I don't fancy your chances much, you are no doubt contracted to perform reasonable tasks including but not limited to your core job description.
 
Garrett said:
If they want him to stay on and train the new guy then they place some value on him, all I meant is that Phate might be able to use this as leverage to get some money out of them - given that contacts are being renogiated etc. At whatever level he saw fit.
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You seem to have missed the fact he is a temp. All the company has done is hired x units of 'Phates time' for a certain period. Now they've decided to employ somebody themselves, but they still require the temp for a bit.

Why is everyong screaming OMG UNFAIR DIMISSAL and OMG DEMAND EXTRA MONEY?

It just smacks of either not understanding the point and role of a temp, or not bothering to read the thread.
 
sormicoft said:
be a man and train the guy up ffs, oh and make sure you leave your manager a contact number for yourself, if the new guys blows it or decides to not bother then you might be top of the list for going back in being fully trained in the role and all that :)
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Best answer tbh :)
 
[TW]Fox said:
You seem to have missed the fact he is a temp. All the company has done is hired x units of 'Phates time' for a certain period. Now they've decided to employ somebody themselves, but they still require the temp for a bit.

Why is everyong screaming OMG UNFAIR DIMISSAL and OMG DEMAND EXTRA MONEY?

It just smacks of either not understanding the point and role of a temp, or not bothering to read the thread.
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The latter. Phate deliberately misled us because that's exactly the reaction he wanted. I notice he's not posted since the full facts came to light. It's pathetic.
 
Velocity219e said:
This happened to me at the beginning of 2006 except my boss quite insultingly didn't even tell me the guy I was training up was my replacement, for the entire two weeks I was working alongside him I was purposefully lead to believe that we were training up a junior (as were several of my colleagues) I kinda twigged that something funny was going on when my boss started acting very tense around me, no surprise to me when on the friday afternoon my boss says I am being let go because I don't drive...

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Had me worried until i read further, as i was in the EXACT same situation at the beginning of this year, except i was the new boy getting trained. Was an odd experience comming in on the Monday morning to find out the guy who had been training me had been sacked on the Friday.....
 
Sorry i was mainly responding to the poster who had the 12month contract. If you carry on working past the 12 months without renewing the contract they cannot dismiss you because they want to.

From what i understand is that you are deemed to be a full time employee if you continue under the same conditions. I'm not 100% on this and the missus is fed up of answering all of my queries (you'd be surprised how many people she helps on other forums).

Try calling ACAS and speaking to them as you may have a case for unfair dismissal despite it being a few months ago.
 
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