AM3 Quad

[Big.Wayne]

I am at about bursting point due to the copious amount of popcorn I have consumed over the last week or so...

Lol hello Pneumonic!

Obviously no one is forcing you to read the posts! . . . but as your lurking why not join in the conversation if you think you have some interesting insights?

Maybe you could answer me this . . . why is it that hardly any old-school overclocker I know on these forums are using a AMD PhII X4 and almost all of them have either stuck it out on LGA775 or stepped up to Intel LGA1156/1336

 

[lemzip]

First thing i did after being away for so long is drop a post in this very forum asking for help and explaining my budget. This rig was recommended and i snapped it up, thanks has to go to the person who proposed this setup. I am chuffed with it (as a working machine).

Yes back in the day when i started clocking i purchased a Extreme edition P4 @ 3.2Ghz at around £999 when they came out. Yep, a grand on a proccy that is now sold to someone on ebay for 20 quid i think, then i moved around proccies based on socket 478 and clocking them for fun, each time enjoying it. Then i had a child....so much for anything luxury after that!

Yep, i have been brainwashed. LN2 clocking will be in my future....most deffo. The hardware is not the hobby, its the pushing the hardware to see if it can take it and if i can get it there, i remember how addicted i was back in the day and it clicked again this time.

I am pritty sure i have covered this machine back to front but some fresh eyes wouldnt go amis if you dont mind. I have added you on msn so would be happy to see if we can forward this proccy to the heights but i might have a buyer for it already

 

[gareth170]

IThe dilema for any computer enthusiasts with lots of spare funds atm would probably be the choice of Core i5 vs Core i7, not sure which I would choose myself but from mt perspective I cannot see any compelling reason to go with AMD at the high end?

i know this wasn't to me but i have a answer to this..

its called features, thats another reason why some people stick with amd or intel..

intel doesn't offer the features that amd does. so personly buying any intel base system won't offer me the features that amd offers such has amd overdrive.

if intel offered them features then yes i would go with intel...

for some people features is very important and then performance

 

[Big.Wayne]

i moved around proccies based on socket 478 and clocking them for fun, each time enjoying it. Then i had a child....so much for anything luxury after that!

Nice one!

I was into the P4 socket 478 clocking craze, still got me Northwood 2.8GHz that runs at 3.5GHz . . .we must be talking 2003/2004 yeah?

LN2 clocking will be in my future....most deffo.

Hmm you certainly re-awoke your inner overclocker didn't you!

Well in that case if your gonna be a Pro-Benchmarker using Ln2 then the AMD PhII BE chips could be just the ticket!

The hardware is not the hobby, its the pushing the hardware to see if it can take it and if i can get it there

I can understand that, it's just a nice pastime and similar to the dudes who drive fast cars across desert salt planes trying to break a new landspeed record!

So basically your becoming a benchmarker and less of a computer user? Have you not been using your PC to do cool stuff like gaming, folding, virtualization, media creation etc? . . . surely having a machine that blazes through all your heavy duty tasks is the best reward over seeing your name in a list of overclockers?

Well theres not much more I can do here apart from wishing you luck! . . if I don't see some posts from you over the next 12 months on your Ln2 clocking records I will know you pulled a fast one on me in order to justify your upgradusaddictus!

 

[Pneumonic]

Lol hello Pneumonic!

Obviously no one is forcing you to read the posts! . . . but as your lurking why not join in the conversation if you think you have some interesting insights?

Maybe you could answer me this . . . why is it that hardly any old-school overclocker I know on these forums are using a AMD PhII X4 and almost all of them have either stuck it out on LGA775 or stepped up to Intel LGA1156/1336

Well let me add my 2 cents then

I actually had both an I7 (sold now) and AM3 955BE set-up.. to be honest my Q6600 would have sufficed.. but I came into possession of two 4870X2 and well that called for a new motherboard(s).. For a 'high-end' gaming rig there is no difference between either the i7 or 955BE.. I went with the 955BE on the basis that in x-fire the 4870X2 were more stable on my AM3 board..

I do nothing that requires what the i7 is better at than the AM3 set-up so I sold it off..

Now this was pre i5.. but I suspect that there is very limited difference in what 99% of people use a PC for on a day-to-day basis between the 955BE and an i5.. other than the cost (which isn't so great a gap).. and the fact that the AM3 set-up has more legs in terms of upgrade-ability in the future.

I am in agreement with yourself that you can spend very little on an AMD setup and get a good rig these days.. people don't need i5 / i7 or PHII X4.. The g/f has a E8400 / 4870 set-up which runs 95% of games at max res on her 24inch monitor.. and the 'low-end' AMD CPU offer a really excellent alternative at the moment..

To be fair my own motivation is to overclock and build / mess with my rigs.. I like playing with the hardware and seeing what I can get it to do.. Is why I will be getting a 965BE shortly for my new 'eXtreme' liquid build and probably a hex core when they come out.. but that is purely for 'play value' rather than actually processing power necessity.

 

[Pneumonic]

i know this wasn't to me but i have a answer to this..

its called features, thats another reason why some people stick with amd or intel..

intel doesn't offer the features that amd does. so personly buying any intel base system won't offer me the features that amd offers such has amd overdrive.

if intel offered them features then yes i would go with intel...

for some people features is very important and then performance

You make a good point gareth.. one of the areas AMD certainly does have an advantage at the moment is software overclocking.. overdrive is excellent to quickly mess about on the fly with an overclock.. rather than in and out of the BIOS.. from the looks of it AMD are really concentrating in this area at the moment with some new features to come out

 

[Big.Wayne]

Well let me add my 2 cents then

No love for the Regor/Propus silicon then? . . . some of them sell for like £40 and I would love to see what they could do in a proper liquid cooled system . . .

It's the price that gets me . . .think about it . . .£40!

I've always been more interested in seeing a runt of a chip tweaked up to perform better than the flagship processor than to see a flagship processor tweaked up to be a megaflagship processor i.e Core i7 @ 4.0GHz . .

I'm not sure of the exact reasons but its probably I don't like giving too much of my money to these large corporations and I also think more people are interested in bang-for-buck overclocking than world record attempts? . . . . dunno I could be wrong!

 

[Pneumonic]

No love for the Regor/Propus silicon then? . . . some of them sell for like £40 and I would love to see what they could do in a proper liquid cooled system . . .

It's the price that gets me . . .think about it . . .£40!

I've always been more interested in seeing a runt of a chip tweaked up to perform better than the flagship processor than to see a flagship processor tweaked up to be a megaflagship processor i.e Core i7 @ 4.0GHz . .

I'm not sure of the exact reasons but its probably I don't like giving too much of my money to these large corporations and I also think more people are interested in bang-for-buck overclocking than world record attempts? . . . . dunno I could be wrong!

oh I agree loved my little E5200 that was IBT stable @ 4.2ghz

I have my old 955BE C2 that will be the guinea-pig in the new rig but I may have to invest some monies into some of the lower range AMD CPU just to have a play