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AM4 or AM5?

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Will DDR5 offer anything new? I remember when DDR4 first came out, it wasnt a huge upgrade until the speeds and timings got better.

I did wonder also if there is another board - say the X670, do you think that the northbridge might be able to be cooled passively if they shrink the chip?
 
Are you planning on gaming at 720p 240Hz with a 2080 Ti? No? Then what's that point in waiting for Ryzen 4000? Ryzen 3000's gaming performance now is fine in real-world cases. Who cares if the 9900KS is 10fps faster than a 3700X when you're already over 90? The £300 saved can go towards a bigger GPU or a [whatever]Sync monitor.
 
The main problem with gaming is that the GPU's are so far behind the CPU's at the moment.

Most of the Ryzen 3000 lineup and Intel chips are just too powerful for pretty weak GPU technology atm. Nvidia and AMD really need to step it up a notch and work on getting much better GPU's, ones that will really stress the CPU and use it for its full capabilities
 
Praz94 said:
The main problem with gaming is that the GPU's are so far behind the CPU's at the moment.

Most of the Ryzen 3000 lineup and Intel chips are just too powerful for pretty weak GPU technology atm. Nvidia and AMD really need to step it up a notch and work on getting much better GPU's, ones that will really stress the CPU and use it for its full capabilities
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Arguably doesn't that just mean games could be leaning more on the CPU for certain effects/systems?

I think a large part of the reason that they don't is the weak CPUs in the current gen consoles... Even for their time they were weak. The other part being up until very recently the 4 core max on PC... Perhaps with both consoles getting proper CPUs next year and the affordability of powerful 6 core+ systems in PC we'll finally start seeing more games that leverage that available power ramping up physics effects, much more resource intensive AI, perhaps moving some suitable effects from the GPU to the CPU? Already seeing some of the newer games perform significantly better on 6 core minimum - probably (hopefully) just the start!
 
Zeeflyboy said:
Arguably doesn't that just mean games could be leaning more on the CPU for certain effects/systems?

I think a large part of the reason that they don't is the weak CPUs in the current gen consoles... Even for their time they were weak. The other part being up until very recently the 4 core max on PC... Perhaps with both consoles getting proper CPUs next year and the affordability of powerful 6 core+ systems in PC we'll finally start seeing more games that leverage that available power ramping up physics effects, much more resource intensive AI, perhaps moving some suitable effects from the GPU to the CPU? Already seeing some of the newer games perform significantly better on 6 core minimum - probably (hopefully) just the start!
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Good point tbh, the cpu's up until recently (until AMD came back in) were very weak. Now that consoles are 8 cores, games will start to use all 8 cores in consoles - which of course will drip down into PC games!

Can't wait until 8 cores becomes the norm for PC's, its almost there - but once consoles are 8 cores as of next gen, it would be very silly for any PC builders to build anything with less than 8 cores (for gaming anyway)
 
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