No mentions about Navi at all, no mentions, too when to expect Zen 2 to market.
Maybe CES 2019?!
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AMD 7nm GPU News and Rumours 2018/2019
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No mentions about Navi at all, no mentions, too when to expect Zen 2 to market.
Maybe CES 2019?!
Maybe sooner, although AMD probably feel they can clear out Vega now the market has normalized.
Caporegime
EDIT Nvm 
Soldato
Nothing has ever been rumoured/stated/leaked/release that has ever indicated anything else.
Caporegime
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R Anything worth noting from the stream from a gamers perspective? I missed the live stream as I was working late last night.
R Anything worth noting from the stream from a gamers perspective? I missed the live stream as I was working late last night.
Soldato
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Why, you thinking about going red after the disaster that is Nvidia turding? xD
Don't blame you. Worst GPU launch in history. Hats off to Nvidia pmsl.
3700X shaping up nicely, still none the wise about gaming GPU's.
I wish AMD would leave PC gaming GPU space, let Intel try, and AMD focus where they are strong, server, PC CPU, console etc.
Nvidia own the PC gaming graphics market and turding proved that. Nvidia can literally sell anything at any price xD
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Looks like another AMD failure, slower than a Volta TV100, uses the same power and doesn't have any dedicated Tensor cores so will be annihilated in deep learning applications.
All the while built on 7nm. When Nvidia move to 7nm early next year AMD will be in real trouble.
300W at 1.8GHz on the 7nm process means that AMD have really done nothing to improve Vega power efficiency. AMD are basically an entire node behind Nvidia, AMD needs the 7nm process to get the same performance per watt as NVidia on 16nm. They will be in serious trouble going forwards if there isn't significant improvements with Navi
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So would Nvidia users' relationship with their Mrs
Also, AMD's lying propaganda at work: https://www.eteknix.com/amd-announces-radeon-mi60-worlds-1st-7nm-gpu/
They show The TV100 processing 357 images a second in ResNet50, but this is jot using the Tensor cores which is the entire purpose of Volta.
Using the Tensor cores, The TV100 achieves 1075 images a second. https://devblogs.nvidia.com/tensor-core-ai-performance-milestones/
So Volta is over 3 times faster at deep learning, despite being a built on a 16/12nm process. There is really not going to be a market for AMD at all.
They show The TV100 processing 357 images a second in ResNet50, but this is jot using the Tensor cores which is the entire purpose of Volta.
Using the Tensor cores, The TV100 achieves 1075 images a second. https://devblogs.nvidia.com/tensor-core-ai-performance-milestones/
So Volta is over 3 times faster at deep learning, despite being a built on a 16/12nm process. There is really not going to be a market for AMD at all.
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Do you have either of these cards to 'prove' AMD are lying? Have you considered that it might be Nvidia's 'lying propaganda' or are you so heavily entrenched in your hatred of AMD that you can't consider that possibility?
So you're position is - believe Nvidia marketing material because AMD is lying in theirs?
You're funny
Caporegime
I don't do politics with my hobby and if AMD release something that beats my 2080Ti, I have no issue at all buying it. I was just curious as to what is what with 7nm release really and hoping they have something up their sleeve to whet my appetite
Do you have either of these cards to 'prove' AMD are lying? Have you considered that it might be Nvidia's 'lying propaganda' or are you so heavily entrenched in your hatred of AMD that you can't consider that possibility?
So you're position is - believe Nvidia marketing material because AMD is lying in theirs?
You're funny
So yoiu believe AMD is lying?
I don;t have to trust Nvidia's marketing, because there are countless independent 3rd party benchmarks that collaborate those benchmarks.
I have no hatred of AMD, this lunacy is spouted out by the weak minded whenever the reality is show to them. I have a Threadripper box at work I used for some data crunching, it is is a seriously nice but of kit and Zen2 looks amazing. But AMD's GPU's are in a dire state.
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I don't do politics with my hobby and if AMD release something that beats my 2080Ti, I have no issue at all buying it. I was just curious as to what is what with 7nm release really and hoping they have something up their sleeve to whet my appetite
It wasn't aimed at gamers unfortunately although there were some interesting bits and pieces relating to Infinity Fabric 2 and PCIe 4.
They mentioned something along the lines of 100GB/s between GPU/CPU without switches or bridges. And Vega 20 having 1TB/s bandwidth with 32GB HBM. Not a consumer part though, definitely aimed at DC etc.
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Must be why AWS signed them up then, because they obviously don't have a clue
And calling me weak minded... Take a look in the mirror before insulting people.
Caporegime
Thanks for the info. A shame but normal with node switching. I still have hope they are investing big in the gamers market and fingers crossed, they deliver
Soldato
LOL. You aren't serious. £2000 GPU will be reality before end of 2020 then.
Lisa Su said, they build the foundations for competing in high end gaming market. Everyone had written them off in CPU market with many voices in here saying up to 2 years ago for Nvidia to buy AMD to compete.
LOL.
With ROCm 1.3 (almost initial release), a Vega 10 based GPU (Mi25, FE) was less than 10% slower on matrix computing than the TV100 with it's dedicated Tensor cores, which costs £8000.
The consumer Vega 64 (£450) is less than 20% slower on matrix computing than the TV100 on same benchmarks (Cifar10), where TV100 is fully used
Vega 20 is pretty big when you consider what it brings on the table. 10 times higher FP64 computations compared to Vega 10, way higher memory bandwidth (which matters) and now with ROCm 2.0 coming out.
Have a look here, a list of 3 matrix benchmarks with the now ancient ROCm 1.3, performance with the new ROCm 2.0 is improved significantly.
http://blog.gpueater.com/en/2018/04/23/00011_tech_cifar10_bench_on_tf13/
AMD Vega and Volta compete at same footing. And consider also the costs. You could get 5 W9100 for less money than a single TV100 and beat it with 4+ times better performance.
However AMD MI60 points yesterday against Nvidia solutions were
a) Open Source
b) No licences
c) doesn't need links
d) cheaper.
If you wanna get an idea what Intel can do with graphics, just take a look at their graphics integrated solutions that their processors have today. Satisfied with the drivers, support, image quality?
I do wish AMD gets its act together and start properly releasing new graphics cards - after all, the RX 590 is the old 2016 RX 480, just refined on a ++ process
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What rock You been under ?? I'w read that there wont be no 7nm gamers vega months ago...https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-7nm-vega-not-for-gamingThanks for the info. A shame but normal with node switching. I still have hope they are investing big in the gamers market and fingers crossed, they deliver
Was said many times many months after that.
Those 7nm vegas are good pro cards.
Thng is AMD cant make vega Cheap enough to be gamer attractive product. HBM adds sooo much cost.