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AMD 7nm Vega 20 32GB GPU 3DMark Performance Benchmark Leaked

TheRealDeal said:
While it's not a gaming chip it's good news that 7 nm is not to far away. Hopefully see Navi in early 2019 and not late 2019. Still it would be good to see something before then as i think Nvidia will take an even bigger lead performance wise within the next 3 months.
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Samples of Vega20 are going to partners this year, which means Vega20 sales will begin early 2019. Navi won't come so fast after Vega20, earliest 3 Months. If they launch V20 in 2018, then Navi might come early 2019, but AMDs own projections are all saying something else. So i'm sure we won't see Navi before mid 2019 around Computex.
 
Are you both of you saying that AMD would leave 2018 empty when it comes to the mainstream?
RX 580 is just a rebadged 2016 technology.

Even in the worst days of the Bulldozer FX processors, they had every year new generations for the mainstream with Llano 2011, Trinity 2012, Richland 2013, Kaveri 2014, Carrizo 2015, Godavari 2015, Bristol Ridge 2016.

This is very dangerous. I can't imagine how they will get sales when nVidia launches 1160, 1170, 1180.
 
I think vega20 aka instinct is being developed as an enterprise product for servers?

If Vega56/64 get rebuilt on 7nm and fall in price and/or power/heat that might be good enough for a while at least - as they'd at least get a clock bump from a drop to 7nm?
 
4K8KW10 said:
Are you both of you saying that AMD would leave 2018 empty when it comes to the mainstream?
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Well the Vega Nano is supposedly launch later this year, we've seen pics of a Powercolor one now in addition to AMD's reference. However if it follows the same path as Fury X/Nano then it will just be a Vega 64 with 2/3 the power consumption (not necessarily a bad thing but hardly a rival to the next Nvidia x70 and up). Would leave the door open for a dual Vega card though which could be interesting (Vega is the first series to have no dual GPU card since the HD2000 in 2007).
 
ubersonic said:
Well the Vega Nano is supposedly launch later this year, we've seen pics of a Powercolor one now in addition to AMD's reference. However if it follows the same path as Fury X/Nano then it will just be a Vega 64 with 2/3 the power consumption (not necessarily a bad thing but hardly a rival to the next Nvidia x70 and up). Would leave the door open for a dual Vega card though which could be interesting (Vega is the first series to have no dual GPU card since the HD2000 in 2007).
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Given how long its been since vega's launch and we still don't have the Nano I think that wishful thinking.
We never really even got a Fury X2 just the Duo which was marketed and a pro card and that was back when mutli GPU sucked less. Now with the short supply and high price of HBM2 and the fact multi gpu is pretty dead in terms of support in new games the past year or so AMD would be better placed putting there resrouces into other things

2/3 the power (which would be massive for just a die shrink would bring vega 56/64 in line with the 1070/1080 but with a smaller node and would be competing whatever the 11XX cards will bring but months later.

I could be mistaken but the last time I remember there being a straight die shrink of a high end product with no architectural modifications was the GTX280 to 285 and that only gained about 10% performance in clocks alone.

I would try and build up there GPU team with some of the vega/Polaris/ryzen/mining profit and while finishing up NAVI and hope that's enough while they work on a GCN replacement as they had designed them self's into a corner.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Are you both of you saying that AMD would leave 2018 empty when it comes to the mainstream?
RX 580 is just a rebadged 2016 technology.
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A mobile vega will arrive this year, that's it. AMD tends to have 2 gpus every year in development. 2016 P10,P11. 2017 P12, Vega10. 2018 Vega20, Vega12? Not sure about the name of the mobile vega chip. V20 is not coming anymore in 2018, but that's because the new process needs time. 2019 probably something like N10, N11.
 
It's obvious now why Raja Koduri left to go to Intel and head up a new project. Vega was AMD's big swing at the high-end, and now they're going to be farting around with derivates for years.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Are you both of you saying that AMD would leave 2018 empty when it comes to the mainstream?
RX 580 is just a rebadged 2016 technology.

Even in the worst days of the Bulldozer FX processors, they had every year new generations for the mainstream with Llano 2011, Trinity 2012, Richland 2013, Kaveri 2014, Carrizo 2015, Godavari 2015, Bristol Ridge 2016.

This is very dangerous. I can't imagine how they will get sales when nVidia launches 1160, 1170, 1180.
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I thought I read rumours of a more tweaked polaris card which if I'm honest still feels it has more performance under the hood, mean look what Nvidia did to the Geforce 480 when they tweaked it and we got the geforce 580.

In my honest opinion, AMD shouldn't try to bring out something new when they know they can't so soon, get Navi ready properly and bring out a tweaked Polaris card in the mean time, vega tweaked isn't a bad idea but not with HBM at the mid range market, I am assuming tweaking a chip to use different memory types is hard?
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Its slower than the Frontier mining card, unless im reading it wrong :p
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The Frontier Edition is a professional/compute card not a mining card hence why it beats the gaming cards at 3DMark, for reference this new card seems to perform on par with the Vega 64, so if it's doing that at a much lower TDP then...... It's still a year late lol.
 
Raelgun said:
I thought I read rumours of a more tweaked polaris card which if I'm honest still feels it has more performance under the hood, mean look what Nvidia did to the Geforce 480 when they tweaked it and we got the geforce 580.

In my honest opinion, AMD shouldn't try to bring out something new when they know they can't so soon, get Navi ready properly and bring out a tweaked Polaris card in the mean time, vega tweaked isn't a bad idea but not with HBM at the mid range market, I am assuming tweaking a chip to use different memory types is hard?
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GTX 480 to 580 ironically is like RX 480 to 580, the gains in performance where nice but not a game changer (was nice they did it with abit less power though in the GTX case) but that was with a fully unlocked chip. I'm not aware of any cut off/unsed bits of the Vega die.

If this 7nm Vega gets a gaming card version I would predict it be more like the the Radeon 3870 was to the 2900XT, the former being smaller die, cheaper Fixed version of the later with similar performance but much cheaper which is how it remain competitive/relevant at the time.
 
Anyone who reads this article and thinks were going to see a 7nm Vega gpu capable of coming even remotely close to the articles conjecture is setting themselves up for a big letdown.



Armageus said:
Wccftech.... yawn

Have they ever been right about anything
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All the time, They make so much contradictory stuff up that the they'll always be able to say look we told you so.

Maybe someone should open up a WCCF thread so it's easier for us to sift out the trash.
 
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