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AMD 9*** series soon?

Well APU's are Desktop CPU's, but they won't be reaching Haswell as they're the 4 core parts, I'll fist myself if I'm wrong and they're on parity with Haswell CPU wise (I'm pretty sure I did the same bet with Humbug before on another forum when he came out with some Piledriver crap, guess what? No fisting)

And of course it's the wrong forum, we're in the GPU section, not the CPU.
 
I meant the 8 core CPUs rather than the APUs. Will you fist yourself if the 8 core parts are on parity with Haswell?

(Now it's in the wrong forum, but I was coming at this from the new AMD GPUs + BF4 perspective.)
 
If you read my prior post, I said it's down to software, just like.... Now?

The FX8350 performs well against Haswell depending on software, and in other software it performs poorly.

Steamroller will be the same, but with a 15-20% boost. But saying parity with Haswell is a blanket statement, as it won't be, it'll be slower/parity/faster depending on the software.
 
I think 9 series should be a nice boost in performance and a nice drop in power consumption.

The new cards are going to be 2 years newer why buy an old one now.
 
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I know they're not going to perform the same, by 'about the same', I meant generally - it's still likely to do poorly in comparison in older tasks that use at most 2 cores, but the gaps will tighten a little, and from a gaming perspective (which is what I was getting at here) they should be coming out very similarly, since at the moment the 8350 is only slightly behind in most modern games.
 
teppic said:
I know they're not going to perform the same, by 'about the same', I meant generally - it's still likely to do poorly in comparison in older tasks that use at most 2 cores, but the gaps will tighten a little, and from a gaming perspective (which is what I was getting at here) they should be coming out very similarly, since at the moment the 8350 is only slightly behind in most modern games.
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We've been here before.

I don't need to write anything of subtance as you know ill just point you to a Skyrim benchmark comparing the 8350 too a whole host of intel CPU's in which even the Pentium beats it. :)

I hope AMD do manage to catch up though in CPU terms..

I hope the AMD GPU value orientation stays the same though.. I don't want them to price the 9950 at £500 justy because thats the 780's mark, they need to go in MUCH lower to get the volume.
 
Doomedspeed said:
We've been here before.

I don't need to write anything of subtance as you know ill just point you to a Skyrim benchmark comparing the 8350 too a whole host of intel CPU's in which even the Pentium beats it. :)
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And he'll post an "In your face" updated benchmark of it reaching parity with the i3 2100.

Then when you mention it, he'll show you a the i3 getting crippled in Crysis 3.

And then you show him a benchmark of Bioshock Infinite at parity.

Tongue in cheek :p
 
Lord_ZED said:
u guys do know they will cost 450 pounds or more for 9970 right??
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I'd be happy to goto 450 for one tbh, but anything more than that would be a push unless it does indeed wipe the floor with the 780.

imginy said:
I think 9 series should be a nice boost in performance and a nice drop in power consumption.

The new cards are going to be 2 years newer why buy an old one now.
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Thats my thinking too, defo going to wait out now before i get a new gpu its only 2 months and a few weeks


Also how come every thread i've started recently people have came out of the woodwork with grudges and start aruging? lol time to grow up folks.

Not long to wait till we know i guess we just have to be patient.
 
If it's anyway north of 350 it's a no from me, unless it's 20nm and packing a punch.

So I'm not holding my breath, GPU's are ridiculous right now for price/performance and progression.
 
Martini1991 said:
If it's anyway north of 350 it's a no from me, unless it's 20nm and packing a punch.

So I'm not holding my breath, GPU's are ridiculous right now for price/performance and progression.
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Without doubt it's going to be more than 350 20nm or not. They'll definitely undercut the 780 to bring in sales but no more than £100 cheaper I'd of thought, £450 is my guess.
 
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Do you think there holding of on 20mm due to Nvivda holding off on releasing the full GK110? or am i talking rubbish again? :)
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A full fat GK110 shouldn't really stand up to a flagship 20nm GPU as even at a moderate gain of 60% we're not going to see that over Titan which itself is 30% over 7970 at best and stock for stock.

A lot of the 20nm stuff is it's simply not ready, but we're quite late in 28nm for a new lot of 28nm cards.
 
Doomedspeed said:
Do you think there holding of on 20mm due to Nvivda holding off on releasing the full GK110? or am i talking rubbish again? :)
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Launching a full GK110 would be waste of time for NVidia as the performance would not be much different to a Titan or non ref GTX 780. All you would get is one more SMX unit and probably slightly lower clocks than the Titan.
 
Martini1991 said:
So I'm not holding my breath, GPU's are ridiculous right now for price/performance and progression.
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Have to agree. A card that's only 15-45% faster than a card launched nearly two years ago asking for extra 50% price premium, completely discarding the "free extra performance" that comes with moving gen...

Progression has been dragged to snail pace comparing to the old days, and if a "Crysis 1" situation happen again, the GPU makers are really the ones blame, with them keep milking the customers for as much money as possible while the performance increase each gen get smaller and smaller.

They are in the business for making money we all acknowledge that...but when it get to the point of release a "new card" that's only pretty much same performance as a card that's been available more than 12 months ago at the same price (770 vs 7970, 7990 vs 690), it gets ridiculous.
 
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Marine-RX179 said:
Progression has been dragged to snail pace comparing to the old days
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when it gets to the point of release a "new card" that's only pretty much same performance as a card that's been available more than 12 months ago at the same price (770 vs 7970, 7990 vs 690), it gets ridiculous.
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+1

I wont be buying if i feel like I'm just a pawn in their game.

It has to have real world improvements and good value for me to part with my money :)
 
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