AMD 9070XT VR good idea?

That's good info. Actually, during the AMD presentation before launch, they did emphasise that they improved the performance in the various codecs. So that's good news for all headsets that use any kind of streaming.

I would imagine that these will be good for most VR headsets.

Would stick to whatever budget you have though.
 
A few thoughts:
  • Prior to the 9070, I got the impression from the DCS forums that the AMD GPUs weren't really that great at VR
  • I did see a VR test of the 9070 in DCS over the weekend. The frame rate looked good, which is positive
  • Nvidia's DLSS upsampling was a real mess in VR until DLSS4 arrived. That's now been resolve and it genuinely works well
  • DLAA is awesome in say DCS in VR, and completely superseded MSAA for myself
  • AMD have introduced their hardware based version of DLSS in the 9070, but it's early days and it's going to take a while for it's introduction into a number of PCVR titles
  • There was comment earlier in this thread about the 50 series not being great in VR. Sorry, that's dead wrong. I received a 5080 last week, replacing a 3080Ti. The improvement in DCS is phenomenal. The frame rates I've seen suggest that it's roughly halfway between a 4080 and a 4090 in performance. No, that's not a dramatic improvement on the 4080, but it's the same basic cost as a 4080, but with better performance. Hardly fair to call it pants.
Let me put it another way. I put my money where my mouth is and bought a 5080 over a 9070 last week, and it's probably not fair to poke an "nvidia fanboy" comment at me, as I use a 7800x3d CPU.
 
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Mr_Sukebe said:
A few thoughts:
  • Prior to the 9070, I got the impression from the DCS forums that the AMD GPUs weren't really that great at VR
  • I did see a VR test of the 9070 in DCS over the weekend. The frame rate looked good, which is positive
  • Nvidia's DLSS upsampling was a real mess in VR until DLSS4 arrived. That's now been resolve and it genuinely works well
  • DLAA is awesome in say DCS in VR, and completely superseded MSAA for myself
  • AMD have introduced their hardware based version of DLSS in the 9070, but it's early days and it's going to take a while for it's introduction into a number of PCVR titles
  • There was comment earlier in this thread about the 50 series not being great in VR. Sorry, that's dead wrong. I received a 5080 last week, replacing a 3080Ti. The improvement in DCS is phenomenal. The frame rates I've seen suggest that it's roughly halfway between a 4080 and a 4090 in performance. No, that's not a dramatic improvement on the 4080, but it's the same basic cost as a 4080, but with better performance. Hardly fair to call it pants.
Let me put it another way. I put my money where my mouth is and bought a 5080 over a 9070 last week, and it's probably not fair to poke an "nvidia fanboy" comment at me, as I use a 7800x3d CPU.
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Yeah with DCS Nvidia definitely the way to go, but AMD for £660 vs £860+ for 5070ti where the line drawn when I want great VR experience but paying over the odds for it
 
Can someone explain how HEVC is broken? Does it just look bad or not work at all? Would a 9070xt be a decent match to a quest 3? Isn't AV1 slow on the quest anyway? And high but rate h264 the way to go... or will the new AV1 encoder in the 9070xt make a difference?
 
BS Dave said:
Can someone explain how HEVC is broken? Does it just look bad or not work at all? Would a 9070xt be a decent match to a quest 3? Isn't AV1 slow on the quest anyway? And high but rate h264 the way to go... or will the new AV1 encoder in the 9070xt make a difference?
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What do you mean by HEVC is broken?
 
GothicGhost said:
The Pico 4 and virtual desktop.
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I use a Pico 4 and Pico connect to play IL2-Sturmovik in 4K VR using a 7900xtx for the past 2 years and it's great for VR. I also used a 6800xt before that and had no problems, I have also used Nvidia for VR in the past, 2080 Super and 1070 before that and had no problems.

Just get the best card for your budget, whether it's AMD or Nvidia. The one thing I do find, is VR loves vram and I see it getting close to 16GB sometimes. I also use something called fpsVR, which is great for monitoring system resources while playing games in VR.
 
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w00dy85 said:
I use a Pico 4 and Pico connect to play IL2-Sturmovik in 4K VR using a 7900xtx for the past 2 years and it's great for VR. I also used a 6800xt before that and had no problems, I have also used Nvidia for VR in the past, 2080 Super and 1070 before that and had no problems.

Just get the best card for your budget, whether it's AMD or Nvidia. The one thing I do find, is VR loves vram and I see it getting close to 16GB sometimes. I also use something called fpsVR, which is great for monitoring system resources while playing games in VR.
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Nice, I ended up snagging a 5070ti from ocuk last night so I be testing that at the weekend

What encoding do you use? I am not sure how it works with PICO connect.
 
GothicGhost said:
Nice, I ended up snagging a 5070ti from ocuk last night so I be testing that at the weekend

What encoding do you use? I am not sure how it works with PICO connect.
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Your best option will be high bitrate H.264 for most games. AMD cards before the 9070 cards, aren't great at H.264.

As long as you running cable or have a good wifi connection.
 
w00dy85 said:
I use 265 as it's better for 4K and I use a cable.
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Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "it's better for 4k?

For AMD cards, RDNA 3 and older, H.265 is the best option as the H.264 encoder is very poor.

If you are connected by cable(or have a great Wifi connection) and want the best visual quality, H.264 at 500Mbps or higher bitrate is better than either AV1 or H.265. But, YMMV as you have a 7900XTX. For GothicGhost and his 5070Ti, in most games, high bitrate H.264 will be better.
 
melmac said:
Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "it's better for 4k?
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From what I have read, 265 is better for 4k and lower bit rates. The max Pico connect software uses is 150 biterate. So with H.265 having up to 50% more compression than H.264, it is better for lower bitrate and higher quality video so that is why I use it.
 
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melmac said:
Sorry, but I don't know what you mean by "it's better for 4k?

For AMD cards, RDNA 3 and older, H.265 is the best option as the H.264 encoder is very poor.

If you are connected by cable(or have a great Wifi connection) and want the best visual quality, H.264 at 500Mbps or higher bitrate is better than either AV1 or H.265. But, YMMV as you have a 7900XTX. For GothicGhost and his 5070Ti, in most games, high bitrate H.264 will be better.
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Are the 9070's better do you know? For h264?
 
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