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AMD accused of "Golden Sample" on 290X given to reviewers, retail bought cards throttling

What's wrong with cherry picking for reviewers anyways? If you know someone's going to be reviewing something, you're going to want to give them the cream of the crop.

Example - You know OFSTED are coming to inspect and "review" the school. You're going to brief all the staff and students etc ... Seen it happen.

And if you're stupid enough to take 1 website's comments as gospel, then God help you.
 
humbug said:
Some so call reviewers are to willing to get involved in dirty games.

Bottom line, reviewers cannot be trusted.
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My method is, push the cards to their maximum, irrelevant of whether they are green or red, ragg the hell out of them on the overclock to their maximum stable and simply share the results here.

OcUK won't be bribed by anyone, we simply love hardware, we love overclocking the hell out of stuff and we don't care who makes it whether it be Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or anyone else, we just love hardware.

You can tell this from our website, we equally promote both AMD and NVIDIA, whereas some sites you go too are either all AMD or all NVIDIA, that won't and will never happen at OcUK whilst I am in charge. :)
 
Gibbo said:
My method is, push the cards to their maximum, irrelevant of whether they are green or red, ragg the hell out of them on the overclock to their maximum stable and simply share the results here.

OcUK won't be bribed by anyone, we simply love hardware, we love overclocking the hell out of stuff and we don't care who makes it whether it be Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or anyone else, we just love hardware.

You can tell this from our website, we equally promote both AMD and NVIDIA, whereas some sites you go too are either all AMD or all NVIDIA, that won't and will never happen at OcUK whilst I am in charge. :)
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Yes, your right and i can see reviewers on this forum are completely unbiased, there are other reviewers who are also unbiased.

Its just a bit disappointing to see some of the previously trusted big names in reviewing involved in mud slinging.

OcUK should have their own reviews front page.
 
Gibbo said:
My method is, push the cards to their maximum, irrelevant of whether they are green or red, ragg the hell out of them on the overclock to their maximum stable and simply share the results here.

OcUK won't be bribed by anyone, we simply love hardware, we love overclocking the hell out of stuff and we don't care who makes it whether it be Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or anyone else, we just love hardware.

You can tell this from our website, we equally promote both AMD and NVIDIA, whereas some sites you go too are either all AMD or all NVIDIA, that won't and will never happen at OcUK whilst I am in charge. :)
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What was the last Nvidia card you reviewed Gibbo?
 
By the time the chip approaches its 95-degree ceiling, you’ll probably find the fan already spinning at 40% duty cycle using AMD’s “Quiet” firmware. From there, the GPU clocks down. Depending on the chip’s quality and the workload you run, Hawaii might slide all the way to 727 MHz and stay there if its fan can’t keep it cool enough.
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Wait so they were trying to do performance tests in quiet mode? That's like trying to rag an engine in limp home mode... IIRC most sites reported that overclocking a card in quiet mode actually reduced performance as it's right on the edge anyway, hence why it has an uber mode, quiet is literally just that sacrificing performance for silence.

Stupid Toms, they have fallen a long long long way since they outed Intel over the 1GHz Pentium design flaw... :(
 
Gibbo said:
You can tell this from our website, we equally promote both AMD and NVIDIA, whereas some sites you go too are either all AMD or all NVIDIA, that won't and will never happen at OcUK whilst I am in charge. :)
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Gibbo - OCUK really could do with something like other e-tailers on the otherside of the pond have done! E.g. Newegg.TV and NCIX unboxings etc etc ... I know there's some stuff that OCUK have done, but need to get it big :D
 
Gibbo said:
My method is, push the cards to their maximum, irrelevant of whether they are green or red, ragg the hell out of them on the overclock to their maximum stable and simply share the results here.

OcUK won't be bribed by anyone, we simply love hardware, we love overclocking the hell out of stuff and we don't care who makes it whether it be Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or anyone else, we just love hardware.

You can tell this from our website, we equally promote both AMD and NVIDIA, whereas some sites you go too are either all AMD or all NVIDIA, that won't and will never happen at OcUK whilst I am in charge. :)
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I've lurked for a long time - and been tempted to buy from you guys; and have bought in the past. I'll be swinging business your way more and more. You care about hardware and that is awesome :)
 
daveip said:
What's wrong with cherry picking for reviewers anyways? If you know someone's going to be reviewing something, you're going to want to give them the cream of the crop.
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Nothing at all, anyone who thinks it doesn't happen is naive, even if you don't send a 'golden sample' you at least make sure it is not one of the worst samples - even if they are the majority.

The problems arise when a company drops all 'reference' metrics such as TDP, or minimum base clock and variances in retail samples means the card doesn't live up to those reviews in stock conditions.

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Notice the "up to 1ghz" which means AMD are not targetting a specific minimum clockspeed, they are simply saying that if the card is kept cool enough (ie. absolutely not in silent mode) it can run at 1ghz, but of course if you do use it in silent mode then nothing at all is guaranteed - you just have to take what you're given, unlike ALL previous generations where the 'base clock' was always guaranteed.
 
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Gregster said:
It is a serious question. I have looked and can't see anything that Gibbo has reviewed/tested from the Nvidia side but I can find plenty of reviews for AMD. Not sure I am looking properly though. Maybe I am missing them.
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I thought you were calling him out for being an AMD fan :D
 
The way I see it, if THG were really having that much trouble with thermal throttling on an open test bed then people running these things in towers with CPU/HDD/etc heat involved would be crying havoc, and they're not.

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imginy said:
I thought you were calling him out for being an AMD fan :D
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Gibbo is totally brand biased, it's blatantly obvious that one brand is massively pushed by OcUK ahead of all others

Haribo
 
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