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AMD and Intel teaming up

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Sorry if this is in a different forum somewhere, I've had a look and couldn't find it:

It would appear Intel are preparing an CPU/GPU/HBM combo utilisiing radeon tech for ultrabooks.

 
Intel has to team up with one of the major GPU makers for the better GPU options, makes sense that while teaming up with AMD for this product some of the fancier tech that AMD has been developing ends up on it.
 
So I was right that it's only Vega & Intel CPU on the same package with using Intel Custom Foundry's EMIB.
A lot of the rumors were fluffing this up as being an Intel - AMD IP licensing deal, which it's not.
 
Interesting that the EMIB is coming from Intel and actually joining the AMD die to the HBM2 - nothing to do with the CPU.

Perhaps the next Vega will use something like this rather than a massive interposer that adds costs...
 
@rtho782 They'd have to contract Intel Custom Foundry for packaging to have access to EMIB, which I'm not sure AMD will want to do.
The main winner here is Intel's Custom Foundry business, since now they have a big design win with EMIB for mobile PCs (they already used EMIB for the Stratix 10, but that's for a smaller market), I wouldn't be surprised if in the future we'll see more "Frankenstein" SKUs with Intel CPUs & various other dies on the same package, including Nvidia ones if they ever design a small die that supports HBM.
 
The official AMD announcement... http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=RssLanding&cat=news&id=2314568


AMD Delivers Semi-Custom Graphics Chip For New Intel Processor
SUNNYVALE, Calif., Nov. 06, 2017 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- AMD (NASDAQ:AMD) today announced that it designed a semi-custom graphics processor unit (GPU) that will be integrated into a new Intel multi-chip processor package. The new product, designed by Intel, integrates an Intel® Core™ processor, semi-custom Radeon™ graphics chip, and second generation High Bandwidth Memory (HBM2) into a single package.
“Our collaboration with Intel expands the installed base for AMD Radeon GPUs and brings to market a differentiated solution for high-performance graphics,” said Scott Herkelman, vice president and general manager, AMD Radeon Technologies Group. “Together, we are offering gamers and content creators the opportunity to have a thinner-and-lighter PC capable of delivering discrete performance-tier graphics experiences in AAA games and content creation applications. This new semi-custom GPU puts the performance and capabilities of Radeon graphics into the hands of an expanded set of enthusiasts who want the best visual experience possible.”
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This is not a bad thing, this should = lots of $ for AMD... :) if you can't beat them make sure you profit from them, right?
 
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FredFlint said:
AMD GPU market share should get a nice increase from this.
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Technically yes but all Intel's Integrated Graphics were nVidia, they didn't get that market-share recognition.

AMD will make sure everyone knows whose Graphics are in Intel's new CPU's but i don't think that matters anyway, what matters is money and that AMD get a #### ton of it.
 
EsaT said:
Not sure if Intel sees enough profits in doing custom chip for consoles.
But guess we now know what kind hardware will be in Apple's next laptop models.
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pmsl , true :D

wonder if they could do the same with their ARM chip or what ever they were planning to get their chips to run android - nice to have a gaming tablet then can run windows games then be a normal tablet - my wishful thinking - PC version of Nintendo Switch
 
orbitalwalsh said:
so. Intel for Next Gen consoles????
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Nope, definitely not. At the kind of power levels we're talking about for console CPU cores Intel has little or no performance advantage over AMD, certainly nothing that would justify the headache of splitting the SoC design over two vendors rather than just letting AMD do it all.
 
Intel are not interested in Consoles, Consoles are a very specific design. This deal is more specific than that anyway, its for a specific market, high powered mobile devices, you will still find Ryzen APU's competing with Intel APU's in other devices.

Because of how Console designs have evolved with AMD at the helm AMD have that space sewn up
 
DrBombcrater said:
Nope, definitely not. At the kind of power levels we're talking about for console CPU cores Intel has little or no performance advantage over AMD, certainly nothing that would justify the headache of splitting the SoC design over two vendors rather than just letting AMD do it all.
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saw it in previous consoles with different chip providers - specially now ps4/xbox was so close new refresh has seen changes -

would be interesting to see though
 
orbitalwalsh said:
saw it in previous consoles with different chip providers - specially now ps4/xbox was so close new refresh has seen changes -

would be interesting to see though
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Different tech companies with different designs is a thing of the past, developers would hate having to go back to making the same game compatible for multiple hardware designs and console vendors themselves have just spent the last few years with AMD getting the hardware designs just so... they don't want to start from scratch again.

Why do you think most AAA titles are not on the new Nintendo? they are a hardware outsider.
 
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