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AMD Announce Furyx2 (Gemini) performance
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Sounds more like Siamese twins than Gemini, They'll both be gasping for life sharing the same heart and lungs.
Anyone who's been waiting for a dual 295 replacement will be very disappointed. It sounds like the Powercolour dual 390's card will give it a run for it's money...
Everyone ripped into Nvidia for doing an exasperated Titan Z and AMD decide to follow there lead, Wow!
Another brilliant business decision from the Red team.
When it comes it out of the box thinking and stone cold crazy AMD have got everyone beat...
Anyone who's been waiting for a dual 295 replacement will be very disappointed. It sounds like the Powercolour dual 390's card will give it a run for it's money...
Everyone ripped into Nvidia for doing an exasperated Titan Z and AMD decide to follow there lead, Wow!
Another brilliant business decision from the Red team.
When it comes it out of the box thinking and stone cold crazy AMD have got everyone beat...
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Yes but it may come downclocked out of the box and just need a tweak to get the performance where it should be
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Yes but it may come downclocked out of the box and just need a tweak to get the performance where it should be
True, If that happens it'll make a good choice if it's the right price for the right people,
Thankfully we know it won't be a 3 grand card like the Titan Z was
personally i think Fiji wasn't a product made by AMD to sell and profit from, i think it was specifically made to add a line to the company's resume " World First HBM Chip "
plus side is gaining experience with HBM, and i hope this shows up on Polaris, and maybe sell enough to break even on the cost.
and this dual gpu will probably be aimed at small form factor builds for VR ready products, nothing more.
I think this adds further credence to the theory that AMD won't replace Fiji as such. I.E. I'm not sure they'll do a big die chip in the Polaris family unless NVIDIA force them to late this year or early next.
Less than 400mm2 (probably ~350mm2) should still be significantly faster than a FuryX, and allow them to produce them cheaply and in huge volume. Something NVIDIA are unlikely to be able to do for a while with TSMC as their partner.
I'd be shocked even if a bigger one was above ~450-475mm2. I reckon 500mm2 or greater will wait for their next gen, presumably again due in summer or Q2 '17.
I expect NVIDIA's Tesla / Titan chip will be around 500mm2.
Less than 400mm2 (probably ~350mm2) should still be significantly faster than a FuryX, and allow them to produce them cheaply and in huge volume. Something NVIDIA are unlikely to be able to do for a while with TSMC as their partner.
I'd be shocked even if a bigger one was above ~450-475mm2. I reckon 500mm2 or greater will wait for their next gen, presumably again due in summer or Q2 '17.
I expect NVIDIA's Tesla / Titan chip will be around 500mm2.
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This seems to be targeted as a VR solution with one GPU per screen,so I would suspect in that case a Fury X2 would probably be faster than a 300MM2 to 400MM2 Polaris solution,even if the latter is better in standard games.
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Yes but it may come downclocked out of the box and just need a tweak to get the performance where it should be
another, 'overclockers dream'
I haven't read much about it, but AMD seem to have indicated that there's a very large advantage to doing this (at least under LiquidVR) ... I haven't seen why.
Shame dual gpu support is so atrocious right nowbeen saying this since the 7990 that AMD and Nvidia need to do more to support these types of cards if they are going to sell them. It's kinda abhorrent that they willingly sell a product like this and then most of the time half of it wont work with a game because they haven't bothered to sort a driver out for it. Can't see that trend changing anytime soon either
It does look interesting though, but I wouldn't touch a Fiji card myself personally, will be interesting to see it actually in real word testing and then see how it stacks up to a dual nano setup if that's what it's based on.
Also price will be key here bigtime, let's see if they still think they are a "premium" brand
They will probably do a driver that magically solves all these problems with this new card. It will be another case of nothing for 6 months so they can then do a fantastical innovation just like they did before.
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AMD burnt me on the 7990, never again. Crossfire isn't fit for purpose.
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I'm not a fan myself btbh.
SLI and Crossfire are much harder to create suitable drivers for when it come to individual titles.
Having said that if it benefits VR as much as is being touted I may be tempted to invest again.
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For VR they won't be using AFR - it will be the same scene rendered twice,one for each GPU. Hence multi-GPU is probably well suited for VR.
7990 was an amazing card.
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Shame it's not a dual Fury X
to be fair both companies have improved multi gpu a lot, compared to 7990 days, more profiles, better scalling especialy for AMD, but they need more driver stability for some issues like frame time, it's hit and miss right now.
again one hopes VR puts the focus on multi-gpu that would force vendors to have invest more in it.
again one hopes VR puts the focus on multi-gpu that would force vendors to have invest more in it.
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Same here, I ended up with a pair of Sapphire 7850's once and decided to try crossfire out in either a PhenomII or 3570k system (not sure which it was now), This was before they got a handle on the microstutter and it was really bad. Within a few weeks I was back to one card and saying never again although when xdma and the fixes came about I did consider trying it again.
its strange how peoples experience of multi gpus differ, i have crossfired 3870,4870,5770,6970,7970 and 290's and on nvidia 970 and 980 and overall not had much to complain about, i would say the 7970 crossfire was my favorite of the bunch
Agree, I've had a pretty good experience with SLI these days.
The fact that doing SLI/Xfire for VR is supposed to be different due to rendering for each eye with one card per eye, then maybe it will work a lot better and will be easier to engineer drivers for.
Still doesn't make it better for Single/Multiple monitor users though so they will have to pull their fingers out to get it sorted. Be great to put this MGPU thing to bed once and for all really and get good driver support from both camps.
It certainly doesn't encourage me to go down the MGPU route that's for sure.
Still doesn't make it better for Single/Multiple monitor users though so they will have to pull their fingers out to get it sorted. Be great to put this MGPU thing to bed once and for all really and get good driver support from both camps.
It certainly doesn't encourage me to go down the MGPU route that's for sure.