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AMD Black Edition now available for pre-order at OcUK!!

Gibbo said:
Hi there

The product highlights are its 3200MHz clock speed and 2x2MB cache. I believe that puts it around Conroe E6850 performance.

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http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/hwdb.php?tid=842214&tp=AMD-A64X2-6400&rid=842214


Where is matters in the games it is still behind the E6750.

Well its beats both E6750 and E6850 in ScienceMark but everything else (apart from two things, probabilly down to the on board memory controller) the E6850 beats it.


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jaykay said:
But you have to say AMD arent doing that bad with a 3-4year old design. Especially when the fx52 the first "extreme" style processor was only running at 2.2ghz
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How are they not doing too bad. Fact they are still used or nasty shops are making so called high end system and flogging them?


Jokester said:
Most people seem to forget that AMD CPUs are priced competitively against C2D and pound for pound are just as pretty much as good at stock performance on average.

C2D only truely wins if you're overclocking.

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Yeah thats true but is only true due to the mass market Intel has and the fact AMD lost out big time by trying to take over. The buying of ATI was a mistake, look at it! GFX was not and still aint whats it's said to be!

C2d wins end of, its in more homes and laptops, it's used more day to day, its cheaper, faster at stock, and much nicer!

Overclocking a C2d is a gift as it goes some and more than AMD.

Only die hard AMD fans will stick with it.

Fair play for the atempet with the box.

Oh and this forum needs multi quote rapidly

Edit, look Azza's posts, The 64 has 2 x 1mb catch !!!
 
jaykay said:
But in games your almost 90% gpu limited so it doesnt matter as much.
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OK then the media tests.

All beaten by the E6850. E6750 is beaten in 3 tests. Two of them barley though.

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And yes as Pete says it has 1MB of L2 cache per core not 2mb per core as the shop says Gibbo.

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I had 2 of the 6000+, clocked to about 3350mhz so know the score, but Crosshair was faulty from day1 and eventually fried so it may not have ran fully well.

I knew it was 1MB x2 (each Core), its a higher Multi only, same 125watt 90nm CPU as others not inc 5600+ which is 89watt 65nm.

There is a 6000+ 89watt 90nm out soon though.

And to above peep, you are not GPU limited in games if you have a good GPU, if game is all about GPU like FEAR you get good FPS with a ok CPU and good GPU, if games requires both a lot of CPU and GPU power like say COD2, you end up with CPU as bottleneck with any high end card like 8800GTX or Ultra, the faster the CPU the futher up the scale it takes to bottleneck so thats better as no CPU today can feed the top GPU's to much.
 
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Is it a "black edition" to reflect the ending of the dark era of AMD playing second fiddle to Intel? Or is it the "black edition" to reflect the high price and the colour of AMD's heart?
 
helmutcheese said:
Wont be first mistake in store, many will buy it on that 4MB and not be happy when they find out its 2MB.
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Hi there

Mistakes can happen, our contact at AMD led me to believe it had 2x2MB cache, wheras from feedback here and looking around on the web it does indeed look like its 2x1MB, so not the great CPU I originally thought it may have been.

If this truly is the case the OcUK description will of course be ammended to state the correct specification. If anyone has placed an order, they will be refunded.
 
Gibbo said:
Hi there

Mistakes can happen, our contact at AMD led me to believe it had 2x2MB cache, wheras from feedback here and looking around on the web it does indeed look like its 2x1MB, so not the great CPU I originally thought it may have been.

If this truly is the case the OcUK description will of course be ammended to state the correct specification. If anyone has placed an order, they will be refunded.
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Good to hear.


Going to be handing out two beatings then. :D
 
Can I ask what the hell is inside the box if there is no heatsink included?

Does the game come in the box and take it all up? Is this why there is no heatsink?


Im not complaining about the box mind you its a bloody nice looking box. :D
 
Jokester said:
Most people seem to forget that AMD CPUs are priced competitively against C2D and pound for pound are just as pretty much as good at stock performance on average.

C2D only truely wins if you're overclocking.

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Only just recently have they become price competitive.
It isn't all about the MHz - Well that is what AMD have been telling us for the past 4-5 years plus, insisting that Intel are getting it wrong by simply going for the fastest raw clock speeds.
So rather ironic they should then start doing the same.

Also you can only compare like for like when you overclock on an even keel.
You take a list of CPU's currently available from Intel & AMD.
Now take this list of price & performance and overclock none of them - all of them running at stock.
Take any pair at roughly the same price of AMD & Intel CPU and the Intel one I think put-performs in each case.

This is not "Intel Fanboyz" or marketing this & that - at the moment it's just simple fact.
 
allllec said:
Sorry bad wording, its not on the CPU support list, and most half decent cpu's need a bios upgrade.. which dosent work on my board :(
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Ah ok.

Why havnt you RMAd the board if it wont up the BIOS?
 
Azza said:
Ah ok.

Why havnt you RMAd the board if it wont up the BIOS?
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Didnt notice at first. only found out about a week ago.

Not that botherd its only a £30 board. To be fair i've only tried from the windows @BIOS program, i imagine floppy probably work, but i havent had a floppy drive in 2 years!

Infact gonna give it another go now :)
 
Err... AMD Processors at 3.2GHz, Intel Processors at 2.4GHz It's like I've entered a bizarre time warp where the main players are switched around.

Repeat after me - clock speed is not important - it's the number of things we can do per clock cycle. :Chuckles:
 
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