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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I just saw it. OTH,how far can an FX4100 overclock? The FX4170 in the gaming tests was not always behind at 1920X1080 for gaming. In half the games tested it was actually ahead of the Phenom II X4 980.
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Yes, but remember the 980 is at 3.7GHz, and the 4170 @ 4.2GHz.

That's a 500MHz advantage, and it only just creeps ahead of the 980 in those tests it wins.

Not to mention the only FX4 you can buy atm is the 4100, which is clocked considerably lower.

So assume you are going to need 500MHz advantage over a Phenom II to score the same.

A 955BE will hit 4GHz more oft than not, so you are going to need a 4.5GHz FX4XXX minimum to keep up with an £85 almost 3 year old tech Phenom II.

That's hardly a resounding success...

The FX4XXX are going to need to be able to clock to ~5GHz on air to be worth it over the good ol' 955BE. =/
 
Comes across as AMD's pentium 4. It certainly seems like they planned it that way from anands review. How did that work out for intel again?

I hope amd can pull a core 2 duo/athlon 64, they need to do it again.
 
Good God, just had a look at this:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8

Looks like an utter failure, even more so with the amount of time it took to launch. I'm glad i'll be saving myself money but I would have thought that AMD would have stepped their game up after all this time and they haven't.

If I do upgrade it'll be to a 2500K sometime in the future.
 
HeX said:
Yes, but remember the 980 is at 3.7GHz, and the 4170 @ 4.2GHz.

That's a 500MHz advantage, and it only just creeps ahead of the 980 in those tests it wins.

Not to mention the only FX4 you can buy atm is the 4100, which is clocked considerably lower.

So assume you are going to need 500MHz advantage over a Phenom II to score the same.

A 955BE will hit 4GHz more oft than not, so you are going to need a 4.5GHz FX4XXX minimum to keep up with an £85 almost 3 year old tech Phenom II.

That's hardly a resounding success...

The FX4XXX are going to need to be able to clock to ~5GHz on air to be worth it over the good ol' 955BE. =/
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This is why I want to see how well it overclocks. The FX4100 is priced closely to the Phenom II X4 965BE ATM too,so how well it overclocks will determine its worth IMHO. However,one thing I did notice is that the FX4170 does consume 20W less at load and idle than a Phenom II X4 980BE. The thing is the Phenom II X4 is being retired this year meaning the FX4100 is going to end up being the direct replacement too! :(
 
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LeJosh said:
lol 2x6990s should be powering 3 monitors!
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Yeah, exactly. I guess they are trying to run a test that relies more on the CPU but it's not really the kind of test I want to see tbh. I'm interested in how it will perform when in the ways that I am likely to use it.
 
HeX said:
A 955BE will hit 4GHz more oft than not, so you are going to need a 4.5GHz FX4XXX minimum to keep up with an £85 almost 3 year old tech Phenom II.

That's hardly a resounding success...
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That sounds pretty bad when you put it that way.

Unfortunately, AMD had to release this CPU, if only so they could start making some money from it. Had they delayed it or tried to develop it further, to make it faster, they would've been increasing costs, while receiving no revenue.

Also, had they delayed the CPU (to develop it further), they would've been up against Ivy Bridge, next year...so the competition will have improved further.

I think AMD made the right decision to release it now.
 
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