AMD Bulldozer Finally!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist. There's obviously something funky going on in some benchmarks where performance isn't correct.

Given that for the CH V board, newest BIOS is 3 versions ahead of publicly released (and half these results are on 2 versions ahead), AMD are obviously still working feverishly to optimise things in certain usage scenarios and generally tune it.

The fact that AMD claim (in the leaked slides) very quick x264 & Handbrake performance (similar kinds of instructions / parts of the processor used to - for example - Cinebench) tends to suggest that once either the software or BIOS are tuned, you'll see much better performance than some of these anomalies indicate. That said, the SuperPi numbers might be as good as it gets ... but who cares.

If 'IPC' was so much lower in all usage scenarios, you wouldn't see decent performance in games (which they also claim).

If the performance was also as bad as claimed in these leaks, then the top end FX CPUs which be no more expensive than the current Phenom II range,or even a bit cheaper.

On top of this with the 32NM production issues,AMD would probably be concentrating more on Interlagos sales and Llano production too,if Bulldozer was so rubbish.

They could have simply extended production of existing 45NM CPUs, which probably don't have yield issues and kept these as their non-APU desktop CPUs this year.

 

[stulid]

If people are expecting these chips to be a better "gaming" cpu than a 2500K, then don't hold your breath.

 

[Martini1991]

If people are expecting these chips to be a better "gaming" cpu than a 2500K, then don't hold your breath.

This ^^.
8150 is about 220 quid from what I'm looking at right now. UK price exactly, no conversion etc. Well, for a 4.6GHZ guaranteed chip.
Search around and ye shall see.

 

[FoxEye]

If people are expecting these chips to be a better "gaming" cpu than a 2500K, then don't hold your breath.

Not expecting anything from them personally. Would you think the same would be true of the Piledriver APU chips coming next? I must admit those seem quite interesting but I'm not nearly as well informed as a lot of you here.

So is anyone expecting the Piledriver-based "Trinity" chips to be decent gaming CPUs?

 

[ng93]

Not expecting anything from them personally. Would you think the same would be true of the Piledriver APU chips coming next? I must admit those seem quite interesting but I'm not nearly as well informed as a lot of you here.

So is anyone expecting the Piledriver-based "Trinity" chips to be decent gaming CPUs?

The main thing about Trinity is it's IGP, which IIRC is about 2x the speed of Llanos. So if your using integrated graphics then yes Trinity will kick ass, but if your using dedicated graphics then it's pretty pointless. Better to get a i5/i7/Zambezi. CPU wise it's a tweaked version of a Bulldozer quad core (better IPC), so not bad but not great.

 

[FoxEye]

The main thing about Trinity is it's IGP, which IIRC is about 2x the speed of Llanos. So if your using integrated graphics then yes Trinity will kick ass, but if your using dedicated graphics then it's pretty pointless. Better to get a i5/i7/Zambezi.

I'd love an i5, but I just can't justify £175 on a CPU. My last one cost £70 (A2 x3), and £100 is my absolute upper ceiling. Primarily a gamer, I don't absolutely need an i5 at this time although they are lovely chips!

If they ever come down to ~£100 and AMD have nothing better at this price point, I'd have no hesitation. Fat chance, tho

 

[gurusan]

Get a friend that works for intel. Got my 2500K for 100 usd

 

[QuackPot]

Here's my results. All at stock though. None of this "overclocking" you youngsters are into these days.

 

[d_brennen]

FX 8150 @ £215.99 inc VAT apparently. Can't link but that's what it says

 

[gareth170]

Even i'm having trouble believing this one...cant be true surely...

can't be right

also ;looks like amd haven't sorted the core temp sensor

 

[Martini1991]

Running turbo?

 

[Martini1991]

can't be right

also ;looks like amd haven't sorted the core temp sensor

Even if it was real, (Probably is) LinX doesn't mean anything.
It's like SB without AVX, it's likely not running the CPU at all.

EDIT : The evidence is in the TPIM. 54c at 4.5GHZ? Yeah right

 

[gareth170]

Running turbo?

if it was turbo the clock would have droped after linx stoped.

 

[Martini1991]

if it was turbo the clock would have droped after linx stoped.

I wasn't on about LinX mate.
The Cinebench.
My reply to you is above.

 

[d_brennen]

Also in that shot, nVidia GPU?

 

[Martini1991]

Also in that shot, nVidia GPU?

What has that got to do about its validity ?

 

[gareth170]

I wasn't on about LinX mate.
The Cinebench.
My reply to you is above.

ohhh sorry

 

[Orcvader]

From AMD Facebook:

Twitch TV is livestreaming AMD now from Atlantic City at #IPL3. On the stream today, you'll see our Street Fighter 4 tournament and see an exclusive demonstration - BattleField 3 and Starcraft 2 on an unlocked and overclocked AMD FX Processors. Check out these awesome demonstrations now - 7GHz Gaming and lots of fun!

Livestream link here:

 

[gareth170]

Even if it was real, (Probably is) LinX doesn't mean anything.
It's like SB without AVX, it's likely not running the CPU at all.

EDIT : The evidence is in the TPIM. 54c at 4.5GHZ? Yeah right

if its true, going by that pic the core temp sensors are just same on phenom II

 

[d_brennen]

What has that got to do about its validity ?

Nothing as such, but if I were faking such a shot I'd use an nv GPU and leave the control centre icon in view, Ya know, for lulz