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JediFragger said:
Well, it's finally been 'outed' !!!

http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40206-amd-officially-unveils-the-radeon-pro-duo

I don't think any/many enthusiasts will be interested though, Polaris 10 is too close and will probably **** all over it (esp as far as 'usablity' goes) :D :)
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Too slow:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18722852

:p

AMD will be the sole GPU presence in the labs at universities participating in Crytek’s VR First initiative, which “provides colleges and universities a ready-made VR solution for developers, students and researchers”, according to AMD.
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Mtom said:
It is because of cost. Its just not worth it on a 300$ card
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That isn't the reason, cost comes down with volume, but there isn't enough volume, that takes time.

Ayahuasca said:
That's fine but it still doesn't make much sense apart from cost saving to limit all Polaris cards to GDDR. HBM even at 4GB has shown excellent signs at 4k, I just can't see there being no new HBM1 card from them this year.
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As above, volume. AMD/Nvidia, maybe more in the past with lower end being higher volume but you might sell 50mil low end $100 cards, 10mil $250 cards, 3mil $400 cards and 750k $600+ cards.

So having a small production facility producing HBM1 to the tune that it can supply a higher end product that might sell 750k units in a year doesn't mean they can ship a product that requires enough memory for 3mil let alone 10mil graphics cards.

New production takes time, getting volume ramped and increasing fab capacity to deal with it takes on a scale of years, not weeks or months. HBM1 was a crucial stepping stone as is Fiji, but to move from the very high priced and low volume segment to medium price higher volume segment and supplying more than just AMD means bringing on production at basically at least a magnitude higher. But it also means production chain needs to increase, with 10+ times more cards being made with interposers you need production facilities that can actually stick hbm, gpus together on interposers.

Interposers in general, stacked memory, it's all a bunch of new technologies together for the first time which means everything has to change to produce it. Once the foundations of stacked chips, interposers are all ramped up, then new types of stacked memory, still using interposers and the same kinds of production facilities will be as easy as the switch from ggdr4 to gddr5.
 
there is another thing, AMD need to understand that Lisa and koduri are not good at doing presentations and animating conferences, i dont get why they keep pushing them to it, they are awkward at it, huddy and roy are good at it.
 
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