AMD CPU With Integrated Graphics Help Please

[humax]

Hi All

Looking for some upgrade advice . I want to build a new PC as mine in now 8 years old. What i want is a AMD CPU with integrated graphics and a good motherboard to go with it. Can any please recommend a CPU with build in graphics and the best bang for buck and a motherboard as well

Thanks

 

[humax]

Sorry i forgot to say i don't really play games maybe a very old one now and again but i do like to video work on my PC.

 

[Tetras]

Sorry i forgot to say i don't really play games maybe a very old one now and again but i do like to video work on my PC.

What kind of video work do you do exactly?

All Ryzen 7000 CPUs except the 7500F have integrated graphics, but how they compare to Intel's UHD 730/770 in video editing, I'm not sure.

 

[humax]

Its nothing over the top its just footage of bird watching that i edit together for you tube

 

[Tetras]

Its nothing over the top its just footage of bird watching that i edit together for you tube

Ah, it is really hard to find good benchmarks that include the IGP, but I can at least share these.

Media Encoding, H.264 (H.265 & VP9 are in the link)
8600G: 25.96 fps
8700G: 33.27 fps
7800X3D: 35.79 fps

AMD Ryzen 5 8600G APU Review: Performance, Thermals & Power Analysis - Page 5 of 12 - Hardware Busters

Hardware Busters - AMD Ryzen 5 8600G APU Review: Performance, Thermals & Power Analysis - CPU

hwbusters.com

HandBrake can be found here:
(lots of different results since it depends on the power settings)

AMD Ryzen 8700G & 8600G im Test: Gaming, Multimedia, Apps: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch

Ryzen 7 8700G & 5 8600G (OC) im Test: App-Benchmarks, Multimedia und Stromverbrauch / Testmethodik für Anwendungen

www.computerbase.de

and here:

AMD Ryzen 7 8700G Review — 1080p-Capable Gaming Comes to Integrated Graphics

Zen 4, RDNA 3, and AM5 excite.

www.tomshardware.com

From what I can see, if you're using the CPU, then the 7700 non-X would actually be a better buy than either of those CPUs, BUT the 8600G/8700G can encode AV1 in hardware because they're based on RDNA 3, whereas the integrated graphics on the Ryzen 7700 is RDNA 2. You can find one of the slides here:

AMD confirms Ryzen 7000 integrated RDNA2 graphics features - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 7000 RDNA2 GPU features confirmed AMD Ryzen 7000 are the first desktop Ryzen non-G series to feature RDNA2 graphics. Ryzen 7000 iGPU has powerful video decoding and display output specs. AMD today reaffirms that the built-in RDNA2 GPU has two Compute Units. As mentioned before, the...

videocardz.com

The other possibility is to buy whatever you want, even a 12100F and use an Arc A310, but I'm assuming you want a very small form factor here?

 

[humax]

Thank you for your help so far this is very usfull . And yes i am looking for a small form factor

 

[Tetras]

Thank you for your help so far this is very usfull . And yes i am looking for a small form factor

Here's an example MATX build, more suited for if you might want to turn into a gaming PC one day (use of CPU's box cooler assumed):
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DV-AM) = £299.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K2-AS) = £159.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £99.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02350) = £69.95
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95

Total: £834.82 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

This is an ITX build, but with the 8600G, you can remove the cooler and use the box cooler if you prefer:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8600G Six Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 760M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01797) = £218.99
• 1 x MSI MPG B650I Edge WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-374-MS) = £219.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £99.95
• 1 x WD Black SN850X 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T2X0E) (SKU: HD-591-WD) = £124.99
• 1 x Raijintek Metis Evo ALS Mini-ITX Case - Black (SKU: CA-049-RT) = £80.00
• 1 x Phanteks AMP 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-09Q-PT) = £89.98

• 1 x Noctua NH-D9L CPU Cooler - 92mm (SKU: HS-028-NC) = £53.99

Total: £887.89 (includes delivery: £0.00)​

There's a review of some ITX coolers here:

Ryzen ITX Cooler Roundup - LanOC Reviews

Article Name: Ryzen ITX Cooler Roundup Review Samples Provided by: Noctua, Phanteks, ID Cooling, Cryorig, Corsair, and AMD Written by: Wes Compton Pictures...

lanoc.org

 

[Blackbadger]

Maybe I am completely off with the metrics, however would a mini pc with integrated gpu be a better option ?
Such as a ryzen 7840U mini PC ? It appears to be comparable performance wise. A lot smaller, - likely significantly cheaper. Maybe sustained thermals maybe a issue depending on which supplier/case you choose. - Maybe worth looking into.

 

[humax]

Maybe I am completely off with the metrics, however would a mini pc with integrated gpu be a better option ?
Such as a ryen 7840U mini PC ? It appears to be comparable perfomance wise. A lot smaller, - likely significantly cheaper. Maybe sustained thermals maybe a issue depending on which supplier/case you choose. - Maybe worth looking into.

i cant say i know much about mini PCs

 

[humax]

Here's an example MATX build, more suited for if you might want to turn into a gaming PC one day (use of CPU's box cooler assumed):
My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Eight Core 5.30GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DV-AM) = £299.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming B650M-Plus WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Micro ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6K2-AS) = £159.99
• 1 x TeamGroup Vulcan EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C38 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FLABD532G6000HC38ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B2-TG) = £99.95
• 1 x WD Black SN770 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T3X0E) (SKU: HD-58G-WD) = £104.99
• 1 x Lian Li A3 mATX Black (SKU: CAS-LIA-02350) = £69.95
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming 850W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (SKU: CA-060-AS) = £99.95

​

This is an ITX build, but with the 8600G, you can remove the cooler and use the box cooler if you prefer:

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8600G Six Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 760M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01797) = £218.99
• 1 x MSI MPG B650I Edge WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-374-MS) = £219.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £99.95

​

There's a review of some ITX coolers here:

Ryzen ITX Cooler Roundup - LanOC Reviews

Article Name: Ryzen ITX Cooler Roundup Review Samples Provided by: Noctua, Phanteks, ID Cooling, Cryorig, Corsair, and AMD Written by: Wes Compton Pictures...

lanoc.org

i think i could maybe get away with this as i lready have some of the stuff here

 

[humax]

so would you say this is the best bang for buck for the money

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8600G Six Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 760M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01797) = £218.99
• 1 x MSI MPG B650I Edge WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-374-MS) = £219.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £99.95

 

[humax]

so would you say this is the best bang for buck for the money

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8600G Six Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 760M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01797) = £218.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £99.95

 

[humax]

no to sure about that motherboard can you sugest another

 

[Tetras]

so would you say this is the best bang for buck for the money

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 5 8600G Six Core 4.3GHz (Socket AM5) APU with Radeon 760M Graphics (SKU: PRO-AMD-01797) = £218.99
• 1 x MSI MPG B650I Edge WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 Mini ITX Motherboard (SKU: MB-374-MS) = £219.99
• 1 x Corsair Vengeance EXPO 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-48000C36 6000MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRS-00996) = £99.95

It is hard to say, because I'd need a much clearer idea of how much the IGP is actually going to be used in your PC/workloads, since if you're primarily using the CPU for everything, then it doesn't really make sense to buy a G model when even the 7600 non-X beats it, includes the same cooler in the box and is nearly £50 cheaper @ OCUK. If I knew you were going to do some light gaming in the future, then I'd say get the 8600G, no question, because in games the IGP is vastly better.

ITX is also likely to be worse value than M-ATX, which is why I can't suggest another motherboard, since the next board available (and in stock) is the Strix B650E-I and paying £288 for that one when you want a "bang for buck" build just seems crazy to me.

 

[humax]

maybe i need tobe looking at a Ryzen 4 to keep the cost down. i have used my brothers Ryzen 7 5700G but the graphics were very poor

 

[Tetras]

i have used my brothers Ryzen 7 5700G but the graphics were very poor

What do you mean exactly? How were they poor?

I'm kind of confused what you need the integrated graphics for?

They're just entry level for gaming, at best, but since you said you don't play games I assumed that was not important?

 

[humax]

What do you mean exactly? How were they poor?

I'm kind of confused what you need the integrated graphics for?

They're just entry level for gaming, at best, but since you said you don't play games I assumed that was not important?

 

[humax]

Hi


Take a look at that

AMD Ryzen 7 5700G

www.youtube.com

 

[humax]

And thats just on youtube

 

[Tetras]

And thats just on youtube

I don't get it, what am I looking at exactly? How does it describe the poor performance?