Nviia didn't make much profit form the original Xbox deal by accepting small profit margins. Their future offers to Xbox had a healthier profit margin, MS went with the cheapest viable solution. AMD was definitely more desperate to get the revenue even if profit margins were non-existent.
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Nviia didn't make much profit form the original Xbox deal by accepting small profit margins. Their future offers to Xbox had a healthier profit margin, MS went with the cheapest viable solution. AMD was definitely more desperate to get the revenue even if profit margins were non-existent.
No, its in the 10's, its an APU. a single piece of silicone and its not even that big, cost to AMD is probably about $50 to $60.
Retailers sell similar chips shipped, boxed up with coolers for around $120.
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I would love to a reference to that, I would find that kind of profit absolutely unbelievably good for AMD.
IF Tonester0011 is right at $18 profit a pop for Sony then you can bet your house that AMD has a fraction of that.
Your claim is easily disprovien because if AMD are really making $50-60 per console then they will be raking in billions, yet their finances prove that they aren't and something in the 50-200million range in profits from the consoles aligns with their finances.
Nobody here knows what they're talking about.
They make at least 20% on a reported ~$100, at last check. Since then shrinks have become available allowing more chips per wafer.
Also I blew out DP on this same subject recently and here he is back again trying to spew the same FUD.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=27141024#post27141024
They make at least 20% on a reported ~$100, at last check. Since then shrinks have become available allowing more chips per wafer.
Also I blew out DP on this same subject recently and here he is back again trying to spew the same FUD.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=27141024#post27141024
LOL that's not how it works.
Eh, no you didn't, you have provided any proof what so ever apart form wishful thinking.
Yes it is.
So If I'm reading this right, some people here think that AMD, just one of many component suppliers to the consoles manufacturers are getting about a third of the retail cost that the whole console sells for, for that one component.
Can I have some of what your smoking please.
Can I have some of what your smoking please.
So If I'm reading this right, some people here think that AMD, just one of many component suppliers to the consoles manufacturers are getting about a third of the retail cost that the whole console sells for, for that one component.
Can I have some of what your smoking please.
You're so smug yet so wrong. How about you check your facts?
http://www.techinsights.com/sony-playstation-4/
Smug. Hmm. OK. Just what facts did I mention that are incorrect.
You seem to have a real difficulty differentiating revenue from profit.
There you go ^^^^ $120
It is perhaps somewhat lower than i thought, but its still pretty good.
AMD's annual revenue is around $6bn, up from around $4.5bn pre Consoles.
2014 year end, Semi-Custom: Revenue $2.374bn, income $399m
It is perhaps somewhat lower than i thought, but its still pretty good.
AMD's annual revenue is around $6bn, up from around $4.5bn pre Consoles.
2014 year end, Semi-Custom: Revenue $2.374bn, income $399m
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Again, you don't understand the difference between revenue and profit.
No one is denying that AMD generates sifnificant revenue form console sales, that isn't the issue.
AMD's company-wide gross marginal profit is currently at -29%
http://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/profit_margin
Their last quarter's revenue dropped 22% as well.
Nvidia's profit margin up at 15% right now for comparison.
Those low profit margins is exactly what is killing AMD right now.
No one is denying that AMD generates sifnificant revenue form console sales, that isn't the issue.
AMD's company-wide gross marginal profit is currently at -29%
http://ycharts.com/companies/AMD/profit_margin
Their last quarter's revenue dropped 22% as well.
Nvidia's profit margin up at 15% right now for comparison.
Those low profit margins is exactly what is killing AMD right now.
You need to stop having a go at me and Orangy for that matter about understanding what we are talking about.
The profits are in my figures, its $400m out of $2.4bn, i said it was lower than i initially thought.
The difference is in my figures, i just didn't spell it out because i assumed i didn't need to. And here you are having a go at me for not understanding them.
Should i dumb everything i say right down? you don't even see the contradictions in your own analysis.
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guessing sales volume and how viable they are in the big picture. Hard to imagine they make up much of market share or much of an impact on the big picture of things but hard to say because they probably reap tons of profit from those things with how much they charge.
Loads have bought them on here, so it would be silly to exclude a card just because of price or volume. I bought 2 of them, just to help nVidia sales
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No they don't!? Where is anyone selling an APU like what's in the consoles? The GPU performance on the PS4 literally wipes the floor with anything you can buy APU wise!
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You can buy a quad core, retail packed Athlon AM1 for around £45. Very similar to the console apparently but I would bet that most of that £45 is mark up at retail and the packing. The chip probably costs bugger all.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-317-AM&groupid=701&catid=1967&subcat=2060
Make that £35.99 retail boxed.
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That's not even remotely close to what the consoles are running, except possibly in total CPU performance (But that bears like no relevance at all). The GPU in the PS4's more like a fully fledged 78XX GCN part.
Humbug made yet another ridiculous claim, end of.
Humbug made yet another ridiculous claim, end of.