Lol. it's not expensive because its cheaper than the most expensive gpu on the planet.
Good reasoning as usual, Mal!![]()
well yea, and who sais it's 1100 quid....... well i suppose it is if you're daft enough to buy it here
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Lol. it's not expensive because its cheaper than the most expensive gpu on the planet.
Good reasoning as usual, Mal!![]()
omg that is the most laughable excuse of denial i've ever heard.
"Why? why is DDR4 so important?
AMD are just being sensible."
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so basically the logic is it's more sensible to stay the same and not improve on anything...that's like the dark ages and blasphemy making it a sin to advance in science...
We'd be colonising space by now if it werent for that type of thinking.
It's apparently more sensible to wait until prices have fallen or whatever? right, and so people who have bought DDR4 products for 1.5 - 2 years bringing in millions £/$ for intel is a benefit for AMD???
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It is a fact. Any company who fails to develop and adapt will go bust sooner or later.
which btw the reason the 295x2 is "cheaper" than titans or any other product because of:
* AMD are not in any competitive revenue advantage of the whole computing industry therefore are selling at a much lower profit margin and therefore will inevitably spiral down to being bust...
nope you are. i suggest removing the rose tinted glasses you have and view the truth.no totally wrong..... they've sub-contracted out the new cpu for someone else to do, they're not lazing around doing nothing, this takes time, it cant be made any quicker
this is a whole new architecture, this isn't a Haswell rehash or a rip off Xeon clone...nobody knows, not even AMD; what this new cpu will be like
finally, if you start upgrading to DDR 4 next year then this is too early, i'd wait to see this new AMD cpu first
nope you are. i suggest removing the rose tinted glasses you have and view the truth.
unfortuantely for your argument intel are bringing out the next gen cpus early next year. The refresh was simply a development from consumer outrage for so little increase of performance from the 3000's and made it look like AMD could be in the race but are really not. So the refresh is like adding some extra power to something it already should have had...
why wait for AMD? AMD's products are so underdeveloped it's ridiculous. Why would i wait 2 years for something that is completely redundant by that time
why is DDR4 to early? is it perhaps youre identifying yourself to older tech and so view a change a threat to youre ego? (btw this is the reason why people get upset when tallking about such things)...
The faster the better everything gets. Computer technology is growing at a vast rate. Why hold back. Infact it is being held back by commercialism. If money was no object you'd see radical improvements are stupidly fast speed.
i dont see their 8 core cpu at only 3.0 to 3.3 an increase in power, it's a step back, most games are only 3 or 4 core.........8 cores arent needed, that CPU sucks, the other two aren't worth having.
the only good CPU was the IVY/ Sandy back in the day when i had the i5 2500.....at 5.0...... my new cpu is an improvement yes, but not much considering it's 3 years later.
i'm all up for upgrading...that's what i'm doing now, but i'm not silly enough to buy DDR4 next year, when it wont be as powerful as mine till 2016........
in late 2016/2017, all i'll do is replace the CPU/ MOBO RAM and that's it, i deffo dont need a new pc/ psu...... well what.
what will the RAM speed be next year for DDR4 ?......... yes exactly !
i dont see their 8 core cpu at only 3.0 to 3.3 an increase in power, it's a step back, most games are only 3 or 4 core.........8 cores arent needed, that CPU sucks, the other two aren't worth having either for only +5%
the only good CPU was the IVY/ Sandy back in the day when i had the i5 2500.....at 5.0...... my new cpu is an improvement yes, but not much considering it's 3 years later.
i'm all up for upgrading...that's what i'm doing now, but i'm not silly enough to buy DDR4 next year, when it wont be as powerful as mine till 2016........
what will the RAM speed be next year for DDR4 ?......... yes exactly !
so if you're going to upgrade next year to DDR4 then you're making a big mistake
Hold your ramblings for a moment.
What's the fastest mainstream CPU available at the moment? 4790K
How much faster than the best AMD CPU? Much faster, cooler and consumes less electricity. Haswell isn't cooler, that's a lie.
So, Intel are by far in the lead already. 4790K and it's new chipset, Z97, having all the latest technologies onboard which AMD users can only dream of at this point.
Instead of Intel sitting back, doing nothing, they are releasing Haswell -E (E means enthusiast, so high priced, more suited for those using software/games that will actually use 6/8 cores). No-one is forcing you to buy a £350-100 enthusiast CPU, but it's still good for the industry that Intel are pushing forward and offering them.
This new AMD cpu that is rumoured to release in 2016 - by then we'll have had TWO new intel architectures, Broadwell and Skylake. Each will put Intel further in the lead on the mainstream platform, in terms of performance per mhz, TPD, electricity consumption.
I think you're slightly mad if you're seriously advising people to wait 2 years for this rumoured new AMD cpu - it might be total garbage, just like 'Bulldozer' was.
omg that is the most laughable excuse of denial i've ever heard.
"Why? why is DDR4 so important?
AMD are just being sensible."
Bulldozer wasn't garbage, it was just poorly supported. You'll be seeing the same from the 8 core Haswell E.
The only people disappointed were those who expected too much. If you knew your onions you'd have known what it was, where it came from, and what to expect.
LOL at those who still don't get it. AMD say "We are no longer competing for the performance crown and will stick to making affordable products"
Silly deaf people are silly, still thinking AMD care about IPC and the performance crown.
That was over years ago.
Bulldozer wasn't garbage, it was just poorly supported. You'll be seeing the same from the 8 core Haswell E.
The only people disappointed were those who expected too much. If you knew your onions you'd have known what it was, where it came from, and what to expect.
LOL at those who still don't get it. AMD say "We are no longer competing for the performance crown and will stick to making affordable products"
Silly deaf people are silly, still thinking AMD care about IPC and the performance crown.
That was over years ago.
most wont
Why not?
Can't blame them for trying but inevitably few would pay £200+ for an AMD CPU. even if it is good. ^^^^
Your opinion doesn't equate fact.
Brand loyalty absolutely should never affect ones purchase.
The vast majority all agree Bulldozer was pathetic. I don't really care if it's meant as an 'affordable' cpu - all I care about is performance relative to the Intel offerings at the time.
Even as this moment, lets compare the CPU offerings available, today:
9590 Black Edition 4.70GHz (5.00GHz Turbo) £229.99 inc VAT
vs
4790K 4Ghz, (4.4Ghz Turbo) £269.99 inc VAT
Suddenly the AMD offering doesn't seem 'super' affordable compared to the 4790k.
I could go ahead and post all the performance, temperature, power consumption data but it's been done a thousand times, we all know the results.
4790K costs £40 more than the 9590. What does the £40 get you?
A far faster cpu in every application.
A cooler running CPU
A CPU that consumes far less electricity
PCI-E V3
Sata Express
M.2
Many more SATA 3 6GB ports
All resulting in a far faster, cooler running, less power hungry, futureproof CPU with all the new chipset techologies included.
Now bear in mind the rumour that AMD won't release any new FX series CPU until 2016. By then, Intel will have released Haswell-E, broadwell and probably Skylake. Each of these will further increase their performance and feature set and will further annihilate any of AMD's offerings.