Amd downsampling spotted.

shankly1985 · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:26

How true this is remains to be seen.
Link is German, use Google translator.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/AMD-C...7/News/AMD-Catalyst-Treiber-Feedback-1135203/

Gregster · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:31

What makes you think that downsampling is in effect? That monitor "PQ321" is a 4K monitor.

shankly1985 · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:35

They is option in the driver image for custom resolutions.

Gregster · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:39

shankly1985 said:
They is option in the driver image for custom resolutions.

Ahhh ok.

tommybhoy · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:42

CCC downsampling must be one of the worst kept secrets by AMD shanks, it's debut was hinted by one of the cat makers a month or so ago, maybe they held it back to get it right.

humbug · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:44

I know its the FirePro CCC but it looks like the old one, the top is black with the new logo on the right for the Radeon CCC.

Does it say which version this is?

Rofflay · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:44

It should have been out Nvidia have thiers ready called dynamic super resolution but only for maxwell. More nice features though is good for all.

Gregster · 19 Sep 2014 at 21:55

Rofflay said:
It should have been out Nvidia have thiers ready called dynamic super resolution but only for maxwell. More nice features though is good for all.

nVidia have had it in the driver for God knows how long. I have used it a few times to upscale and test what performance to expect when going 4K.

It is a neat feature and simple to use. Set the res, click test and if you see the screen, it works and if not, just wait for the countdown to finish and it reverts back.

I could set my Asus VG278H 1080P monitor to 3200x1800 @ 60 fps. Not tried with the Swift yet though and i don't think it improves picture quality at all.

The new version for the 970/980 is done via Geforce Experience and you just set and go

shankly1985 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:03

They is couple ways to get downsampling working guru3D have massive thread on it.

I have used it and had 1440p but only at 60hz, refresh rate means much more to me so that's why I don't use it.
But for IQ it sure does make a massive difference and I can easy see why it's one of the most features amd users want into the driver.

Geeman1979 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:07

Gregster said:
nVidia have had it in the driver for God knows how long. I have used it a few times to upscale and test what performance to expect when going 4K.

It is a neat feature and simple to use. Set the res, click test and if you see the screen, it works and if not, just wait for the countdown to finish and it reverts back.

I could set my Asus VG278H 1080P monitor to 3200x1800 @ 60 fps. Not tried with the Swift yet though and i don't think it improves picture quality at all.

The new version for the 970/980 is done via Geforce Experience and you just set and go

This ^

I run mine at 2560/1440 120Hz for in Game.

Martini1991 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:09

I'd be unsurprised if AMD add it in CCC, so I'd expect it to be real.

Someone's already providing the service, so it's only natural AMD follow through

Rofflay · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:18

Nvidia new option is meant to be far superior though but you need Geforce experience installed and a Maxwell GPU. Google Dynamic super resolution.

shankly1985 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:27

Rofflay said:
Nvidia new option is meant to be far superior though but you need Geforce experience installed and a Maxwell GPU. Google Dynamic super resolution.

And you would know this how? We haven't even seen AMD's running or even know if it is in deed coming.

Downsampling is downsampling at the end of the day, I fail to see how one can be any different.

Martini1991 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:28

Rofflay said:
Nvidia new option is meant to be far superior though but you need Geforce experience installed and a Maxwell GPU. Google Dynamic super resolution.

I'm not sure how it can get superior, it's an act of rendering at a higher resolution than scaling it down, essentially

. I think it's more about pimping it out, hype 'n all that.

If AMD get downsampling in their drivers I'll be happy, would love to see how 3440x1440 would perform.

Gregster · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:29

Rofflay said:
Nvidia new option is meant to be far superior though but you need Geforce experience installed and a Maxwell GPU. Google Dynamic super resolution.

Yer, it is a simplified way of doing it from reading up (not that it was hard anyways). Someone said they did it on a 780 with nvinspector but not sure how true that is. The option is there in nvinspector but as I have G-Sync, it doesn't work on G-Sync monitors or at least whilst G-Sync is on and I am not testing by turning off G-Sync

james.miller · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:29

shankly1985 said:
And you would know this how? We haven't even seen AMD's running or even know if it is in deed coming.

Downsampling is downsampling at the end of the day, I fail to see how one can be any different.

because you dont just drop pixels, i guess. There must be some sort of filtering involved.

Martini1991 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:30

shankly1985 said:
And you would know this how? We haven't even seen AMD's running or even know if it is in deed coming.

Downsampling is downsampling at the end of the day, I fail to see how one can be any different.

He means Nvidia's new downsampling over old. Why always jump to AMD V Nvidia?

Martini1991 · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:31

Gregster said:
Yer, it is a simplified way of doing it from reading up (not that it was hard anyways). Someone said they did it on a 780 with nvinspector but not sure how true that is. The option is there in nvinspector but as I have G-Sync, it doesn't work on G-Sync monitors or at least whilst G-Sync is on and I am not testing by turning off G-Sync

Yeah, simpler - more compatible, etc. All about making it a proper feature.

Rofflay · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:53

And you would know this how? We haven't even seen AMD's running or even know if it is in deed coming.

Downsampling is downsampling at the end of the day, I fail to see how one can be any different.

My dad does it for a living, Trust me im a doctor. No but seriously i was not really on about AMD's version as we know too little. I was on about using the custom res in Nvidias drivers which is not ideal and not as good. Here is the quote.

Enthusiasts with compatible monitors and technical knowledge refer to this process as Downsampling, and for some time they've been applying a basic version to improve fidelity in games. DSR improves upon this process by applying a high-quality Downsampling filter that significantly improves image quality, by making Downsampling compatible with all monitors, by removing the need for technical know-how, and by integrating DSR into GeForce Experience, enabling gamers to apply DSR Optimal Playable Settings with a single click.

It is higher quality than normal downsampling, And you only get to choose from two higher resolutions they set or it optimizes it on the fly. It takes a page or two of reading i am currently doing.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-experience-2-1-2-released

Rroff · 19 Sep 2014 at 22:55

Yup DSR uses a more intelligent down sampling filter so that more detail is preserved and/or replicated though it will still be a long way from running that native res.