AMD Driver Performance - 12.10 WHQL Vs 13.3 Beta 3

[LtMatt]

I'm not a serious player but I'm alright when I do play - 120 Hz helps. Natural aim from back in the day .

If I do stick it out for games like Tomb Raider where to be honest 60 Hz seems fine then I will keep my 120 Hz for online multiplayer.

I suppose you could have them connected at the same time couldn't you?

 

[LtMatt]

I don't get it - how come it looks smooth without AA?

High res and FXAA.

1080p@120Hz FS 3D makes the 79's sweat matt, that's the sole reason for two in my rig.

Yeah i know 3D will make them sweat. I was just referring to my 1080p 60hz monitor i had before this 1440p IPS panel.

Isn't that more to do with pixel density?

Though the higher resolution display will likely have more pixels per inch and so will require lower levels of anti-aliasing for a similar effect, but it's still a function of the density.

And nice write-up, Matt.

Thanks.

No idea Proto. All i do know is i don't generally need AA any more to get a smooth image. FXAA helps with this of course but at 1080p i could notice jaggies easier.

 

[LtMatt]

Can you include links where to get the drivers from for us lazy ppl? Thanks.

Sure, will add it to the OP.

13.3 Beta 3

http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/AMD_Catalyst_13.3_Beta3.exe

 

[LtMatt]

Isn't FXAA the thing that makes text blurry?

Game FXAA doesn't. You're thinking of AMD's MLAA - Morphological AA. It can make some text a little blurry but its very good. A very small performance hit too. I use it some titles but it wasn't being used in that farcry 3 screenshot.

 

[LtMatt]

ah yeah that's the one

It does add a slight blur but personally i love that look in some titles. It always looked great in L4D2 imo. I don't know if you can remember AMD's Wide Tent AA. That was basically the same as MLAA but with a bit more blur. I used to love using that but sadly they removed it from CCC.

 

[LtMatt]

Still in two minds whether to stay with 12.11 or go to 13.3 beta

Upgrade your drivers already!

 

[LtMatt]

Oh god, yes sir.

One thing while im here (Even OCUK staff were confused with this one), when i uninstall my GPU Drivers and the screen goes black it never comes back on. So i have to restart my PC and then it will say DVI power saving mode or something. The only way i can get around this is when i shutdown my PC is to do a CMOS reset and then ill get a picture back and can install drivers

Have you tried turning the monitor on and off when this happens?

 

[LtMatt]

This might be a stupid question but why was the comparison not between 12.11 beta 11 / 13.3 beta 3?

Because i wanted to test old vs new.

 

[LtMatt]

Are you using P67/Z77?

If you are, some MB's switch to onboard gfx when CCC starts uninstalling the gfx driver.

You can either manually switch cables to the onboard gfx, or wait a few minutes to let it complete the process on the black screen, something like pressing enter twice to restart(maybe a helpful person here will confirm the final keyboard steps for you as I maybe won't get near my AMD PC until tomorrow night).

I used to have to do it on a MSI P67 for a few driver revisions last year, then after a bios update from MSI, it stopped doing it, it was a right pita until MSI sorted it, maybe it's the same problem.

Good shout that.

 

[LtMatt]

Updating Tomb Raider results to reflect the Radeon performance patch released for the game which provided up to 25% more performance depending on your configuration and settings used.

Before the patch






After the patch






I will also be adding Bioshock infinite results to the OP. Please ignore the maximum fps results on this benchmark as they are ridiculously high 290-315+ so i decided to remove them and leave them all at 100 to keep the graphs in perspective.



Bioshock Infinite

 

[LtMatt]

Will be adding some updates when AMD release either the next beta (13.3 Beta 4) or the next WHQL. (13.4?)

 

[LtMatt]

anyone getting a crash in BF3 with the 13.3 beta? Screens goes red

Windows 8, increase your cpu vcore a notch. Nothing to do with the drivers/GPU. Had it happen to me.

You keep throwing 25% around as though it's gospel, yet your own benches show 0-4fps differences e.g. statistically irrelevant

Go and troll elsewhere please Andy. This thread is not for debate about percentages. For your reference.

A short but sweet email from AMD informs us that a patch for Tomb Raider is due tomorrow, giving a nice performance update for Radeon GPU owners - up to 25% more performance in some cases.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33999519

 

[LtMatt]

I've also decided not to add to this thread any more either. I'm going to start a new thread and post results of 1080/1440 for many of the current games at specific details. One run on each game, most likely highest settings but slightly reduced at 1440p. This will be upaded when each new driver version is released i can quickly check the performance difference and put them in graphs.

 

[LtMatt]

Please stop trying to troll and ruin this thread Andy/Rusty. This is not a debate thread for pages of arguements.

Please take it to the correct thread where a 7970ghz is 12fps faster than a stock 680 in Tomb Raider.

680gtx - 51fps - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=24054895&postcount=69

7970ghz stock with matched cpu speeds - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18501869&page=4

12fps faster. That is what you call neck and neck i guess.

This is not a Nvidia Vs AMD thread ffs guys.

 

[LtMatt]

Lock this thread please mods.

 

[LtMatt]

Thanks Huddy.

 

[LtMatt]

Which results are you talking about? I can run them again. Tell me what settings, res and clocks to run.

 

[LtMatt]

If you could run it with 2XSSAA and at 1080P (everything else maxed), that should show close to those other 1080P results.

Ok i will run it again. I just ran the 1440P Ultimate Preset FXAA at 1050/1500 and got exactly the same results as my previous graphs

Spoiler

 

[LtMatt]

1080p Ultimate SSAAx2

Spoiler

 

[LtMatt]

H comparison is worthless. As usual they manage to make Nvidia win when in reality the gap between a 7970ghz and a 680 is 10fps, possibly more as when me and arthur compared i was 12fps faster with us both at stock settings.