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I want them to hurry up so can plan my next upgrade. New display plus new 8 series or another 7950?
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**** 8970 looks so much faster than 8950..... Would be no point of buying 8950 for me. That is if there is no haxes to change 50 to 70 like with 6950 
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**** 8970 looks so much faster than 8950..... Would be no point of buying 8950 for me. That is if there is no haxes to change 50 to 70 like with 6950
Bank rate: $1 = £0.59, as Joe Public doesn't get XE.com rates on their credit/debit card.
8970 - £353.41
8950 - £235.41
The 8970 is 15% faster than the 8950 and will cost you 33% more. That's a fair premium to pay.
2 x 8950's in SLI/Crossfire would be a much more sensible option and would be faster than a single 8970 albeit at £470.82
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By the time 8000 series are released, Nvidia may of had enough time to counter it. All this waiting could ruin them.
There was a chart that showed the possible specs of the new cards, which probably isn't true, but could be. Even if it is it would put the 8970 ahead of the 780 by no more than the 780 is ahead of the 7970ghz now. my point being I can see no reason for any delay. They would get more sales in the next four months than they would from the extra boost that a release with BF4 would bring.
edit: found it
7970 GE:
2048 SP's @ 1050 / ROP's 32 / Mem @ 1500 - 384Bit - 288Gb/s
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8970:
2304 SP's @ 1100 / ROP's 48 / Mem @ 1750 - 384Bit - 336Gb/s (+12.5% / +5% / +50% / +17%)
Probable performance increase 25%
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7950 BE:
1792 SP's @ 925 / Mem @ 1250 - 384Bit - 240Gb/s
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8950:
1792 SP's @ 1200 / Mem @ 1750 - 256Bit - 224Gb/s (0% / +30% / -7%)
Probable performance increase 15%
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7870 Tahiti LE:
1536 SP's @ 975 / ROP's 32 / Mem @ 1500 - 256Bit - 192Gb/s
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8870:
1536 SP's @ 1100 / ROP's 32 / Mem @ 1500 - 256Bit - 192Gb/s (0% / +13% / 0% / 0%)
Probable performance increase 7%
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Interesting breakdown humbug. Going by this a 8950 ain't much different than a 7970 GE and 8970 quite close to a 780 but certainly not a "Titan killer". It looks underwhelming given how much time they've had.
Yeah, it looks decidedly unimpressive, and moving the #950 to a lesser 256Bit bus would be a huge mistake.
If there is a 10% actual performance increase from the Stream Processors, then it would be good. I.E: 35% - 25% - 17%
The only thing that I can see that tickles my interest, are the 8 ACE units, IF there are more pipelines that could in its self improve performance, potentially quite significantly, much like what they did with the PS4 APU, quadrupled the pipelines,- doubled the performance.
To much speculation, not enough data.
Caporegime
This whole generation will always be underwhelming for the time, we're still on 28nm.
Which is why the stalling is annoying, because it's just extending the amount of time we're remaining on 28nm.
There was I believe about 26 months between 40nm's début and 28nm's début.
But If AMD launch a 28nm GPU in October that's 22 months of 28nm since they débuted it, and they probably won't be in a rush to kick out a next generation for at least a year, so that's going to be at least 32 months on 28nm.
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I'm not sure why people are getting annoyed with AMD. They haven't deviated from their original announcement to keep the 7000 series stable through till Q3 2013. If they 7000 series is selling well they're not exactly going to mess with their own sales prospects by releasing another product in it's place.
I understand people want upgrades but your following rumored release dates/announcements and specs then not getting them and being disappointed. Seems like an exercise is futility to me.
I understand people want upgrades but your following rumored release dates/announcements and specs then not getting them and being disappointed. Seems like an exercise is futility to me.
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Who else would get enjoyment seeing Roff wearing one of these little numbers? It would be worth it just to see his gritted teeth.
I wouldn't be seen dead in an nVidia t-shirt never mind AMD.
EDIT: You really don't understand my position on this, I have no problem with AMD in a general sense, I admire their ability to do business even when for instance under immense pressure from intel that would have killed a lesser company, and I think they make great hardware, my contention with AMD has always been the lack of support they traditionally have put behind developers, while making big headlines and promises they never live upto, if they sorted that I wouldn't have a bad thing to say about them.
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Caporegime
Like they are doing now???
Its good progress.
Are they not doing enough for you? they are in partnership with the majority of game developers, (CryTek have been public in their appreciation of AMD's help in Crysis 3) a lot of the games released recently are AMD titles, they have developed new graphics goodies like lighting and shadow effects, not to mention SteesFX.
The Drivers have been rock solid for months, they said they would fix Latency issues on Single GPU's and they have, they said they would fix Xfire and they are working on it.
They have been working with software developers like Adobe to add new things into their products......
There comes a point when (despite what they are doing) a person keeps saying "they aren't doing enough" it raises eye brows
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Caporegime
In B4 Bullet.
Tongue in cheek.
Tongue in cheek.
Its been barely 6 months after a lot longer history of less ideal support (and I'm still waiting on the promised hardware physics) its not about whether they are doing enough its about whether its here to stay.
Caporegime
Called it
Called it
Rather than giving me **** they should be putting pressure on AMD to deliver on stuff like that
but it seems those things are quickly forgotten.