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AMD freesync coming soon, no extra costs.... shocker

I thought AMD were planning on doing the opposite to NVidia though? As in releasing free software for existing monitors? If I have to buy a new monitor to get freesync then i'll pass.
 
MrMarvelous said:
I thought AMD were planning on doing the opposite to NVidia though? As in releasing free software for existing monitors? If I have to buy a new monitor to get freesync then i'll pass.
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It's a little messy.
From my understand, freesync is AMD's implementation to make use of the adaptive sync (Or whatever it's called) adaptive sync being in the new DP standard for freesync to work (Adapative sync being the thing that goes up against Gsync)

If the monitor doesn't support the adaptive sync, then having freesync in your driver won't change that, you need the monitor to be capable of adaptive sync.

Chances are, you'll need to buy a new monitor, and one with DP.
Either way, if whatever I've wrote above about the freesync/adaptive sync lark is wrong, the end message of "The monitor needs to have the correct 1.2a DP support" is absolute either way, so it's very likely you'll need a new monitor.
 
MrMarvelous said:
I thought AMD were planning on doing the opposite to NVidia though? As in releasing free software for existing monitors? If I have to buy a new monitor to get freesync then i'll pass.
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Its in Display port 1.3 so if your Monitor supports already 1.3 I guess you can be updated. If its 1.2 like mine you be outta luck.

I be buying my next monitor not just for Freesync because to be honest I not even sure i'll like it. I game with no sync always have.
But I want 1440p 120/144hz so there my excuse to buy.

:D
 
It's 1.2a which brings adaptive sync (Although optionally)
I assume in 1.3 it won't be optional, not that there is any 1.3 DP monitors that exist.

So it's very possible that a monitor that one owns can very much work with adaptive sync, but they simply just don't release a firmware update for it.
 
I see guys. Looks like it'll be a monitor upgrade for me too then, i've been planning to get a 120hz monitor for a while, the future could be a good time to upgrade. talking of 120Hz, would freesync work on that at 120FPS?
 
MrMarvelous said:
I see guys. Looks like it'll be a monitor upgrade for me too then, i've been planning to get a 120hz monitor for a while, the future could be a good time to upgrade. talking of 120Hz, would freesync work on that at 120FPS?
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Yeah, free sync with change the refresh rate to match the FPS. So it will go up2 the max the monitors refresh rate is.
 
AMD Clears the Air Around Project FreeSync

It’s reasonable to expect this functionality to show up in non-gaming oriented monitors, like high-resolution IPS monitors. In fact, the monitor we saw running Adaptive-Sync at Computex 2014 was an IPS monitor with a resolution of 2560 x 1440 pixels (we came by this information on our own). Although AMD won't reveal the manufacturer, that monitor can be purchased today in retail stores--just with different firmware that supports Adaptive-Sync. However, don’t expect monitor vendors to start updating the firmware of existing products.

Nevertheless, this is good news. We can expect to see almost all mainstream and high-end monitors support Adaptive-Sync in the future. Last month, during Computex, AMD announced that we should see Adaptive-Sync monitors on the market within 6-12 months. If so, Adaptive-Sync could have a leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market (we’ll let our testing speak to technological superiority when the time is right). G-Sync also operates over DisplayPort, but with a proprietary protocol, which will probably limit its support.

AMD is unlikely to support similar technology over HDMI, according to the spokesman, who said: "If we wanted to do something over HDMI right now, it would have to be proprietary, and we would rather not do that." Perhaps a not-so-subtle knock at Nvidia.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-project-freesync-vesa-adaptive-sync,27160.html
 
How can it have a leg up on G-Sync in speed to market when G-Sync's already here?
And on the current DP standard it's optional(1.2A)? It's 1.3 DP monitors that'll have it as default IIRC?
 
AMD are laughing from now on everything will be DP 1.2a and in future DP 1.3 for 8K and 4K 120hz. So they have access to pretty much most monitors hopefully although i did see it as optional part of the Vesa spec? Meanwhile Nvidia seem to be locked into a handful of vendors with £150 slapped on. I do not know how they intend to compete unless it really is optional part of Vesa and people like Dell will ignore both.



If only it was more clear because if it is part of every single display that uses 1.2a or 1.3 then Nvidia are dead to me.
 
1.2A's the optional one.
From 1.3 it should as default.

Although I'm not sure how that makes Nvidia dead to you when they *should* be able to use it?

And the £150 G-Sync charge doesn't have to be, Acer 4K G-Sync is 500 quid (Or 560 normal price?)
 
shankly1985 said:
It’s reasonable to expect this functionality to show up in non-gaming oriented monitors, like high-resolution IPS monitors. In fact, the monitor we saw running Adaptive-Sync at Computex 2014 was an IPS monitor with a resolution of 2560 x 1440 pixels (we came by this information on our own). Although AMD won't reveal the manufacturer, that monitor can be purchased today in retail stores--just with different firmware that supports Adaptive-Sync. However, don’t expect monitor vendors to start updating the firmware of existing products.

Nevertheless, this is good news. We can expect to see almost all mainstream and high-end monitors support Adaptive-Sync in the future. Last month, during Computex, AMD announced that we should see Adaptive-Sync monitors on the market within 6-12 months. If so, Adaptive-Sync could have a leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market (we’ll let our testing speak to technological superiority when the time is right). G-Sync also operates over DisplayPort, but with a proprietary protocol, which will probably limit its support.

AMD is unlikely to support similar technology over HDMI, according to the spokesman, who said: "If we wanted to do something over HDMI right now, it would have to be proprietary, and we would rather not do that." Perhaps a not-so-subtle knock at Nvidia.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-project-freesync-vesa-adaptive-sync,27160.html
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That just makes no sense. I quote "A leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market". Where can you buy a freesync monitor or even use freesync?
 
Didn't the G-Sync module come out quite quickly?
We're already 6 months from "conception" on freesync.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMKpJr0KTC8 That's early Jan. So that's G-sync in market 6 months ago (Yes, limited, but whatever). Conception wasn't a year ago. So it smells like poor journalism to me.

The thing that gets me is quite funny really. We could realistically be using this now on the monitors that *could* support it, by the lack of firmware updates, I can see monitors are wanting us to buy a new monitor :p
 
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Gregster said:
That just makes no sense. I quote "A leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market". Where can you buy a freesync monitor or even use freesync?
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Nevertheless, this is good news. We can expect to see almost all mainstream and high-end monitors support Adaptive-Sync in the future. Last month, during Computex, AMD announced that we should see Adaptive-Sync monitors on the market within 6-12 months. If so, Adaptive-Sync could have a leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed toI market.
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With the rest of the paragraph in front of the "If so, Adaptive-Sync could have a leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market." statement i took it they meant when the Adaptive-Sync monitors Start to appear they will have a leg up on how fast they appear on the market as eventually all monitors will support it. With G-Sync this will likely never happen and Nvidia will have to make deals with Monitor manufactures to have it used or vice versa. Dp 1.2a and 1.3 are Standards so Adaptive-Sync should never run into this problem. Eventually the market will be flooded by them which i can't see happening with G-Sync.
 
TheRealDeal said:
With the rest of the paragraph in front of the "If so, Adaptive-Sync could have a leg up on G-Sync, at least in terms of speed to market." statement i took it they meant when the Adaptive-Sync monitors Start to appear they will have a leg up on how fast they appear on the market as eventually all monitors will support it. With G-Sync this will likely never happen and Nvidia will have to make deals with Monitor manufactures to have it used or vice versa. Dp 1.2a and 1.3 are Standards so Adaptive-Sync should never run into this problem. Eventually the market will be flooded by them which i can't see happening with G-Sync.
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Thanks and Orangey pulled me on it and corrected me, so wasn't any need to do the same really. As for Freesync, I think it is good but with Gibbo saying that there was nothing on AMD's roadmap for 2014, G-Sync might well have got a decent foothold for the guys who like new tech and, or are impatient. :)

MjFrosty said:
Meh. G-Sync panels get here next month. Way in time for Christmas. Next year will obviously have to wait ;)
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Correction, G-Sync is here and now :)
 
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