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AMD FreeSync vs Nvidia G-Sync - the adaptive sync battle
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That is true, what if nvidia only made cards with Dvi outputs.
DVI doesn't support UHD or resolutions like 3440 x 1440 at decent refresh rates. It doesn't support G-SYNC and it doesn't support 2560 x 1440 at 120Hz+. So no, that would never happen. There is nothing stopping them holding back and not supporting the newest standard, although I would love to see them 'forced' into supporting Adaptive-Sync somewhere along the line.
Future versions of the VESA standard might have it as compulsory.
Intel might take up Adaptive Sync.
Intel might take up GSync.
Nvidia might bring out adaptive Sync compatible GSync 2.
Samsung might buy out AMD.
AMD might go bust.
Nvidia might lower prices.
Maybe Nvidia will use HDMI2 more and allow it to use GSync. ( they have already said there is no reason why it couldn't be made to work.)
Who knows.
All we know is that as it stands at the moment, you buy a monitor with a Sync technology, then you are tied into one or the other with regards to using it with a gaming GPU.
Intel might take up Adaptive Sync.
Intel might take up GSync.
Nvidia might bring out adaptive Sync compatible GSync 2.
Samsung might buy out AMD.
AMD might go bust.
Nvidia might lower prices.
Maybe Nvidia will use HDMI2 more and allow it to use GSync. ( they have already said there is no reason why it couldn't be made to work.)
Who knows.
All we know is that as it stands at the moment, you buy a monitor with a Sync technology, then you are tied into one or the other with regards to using it with a gaming GPU.
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Proves how much Knowledge and lack of reading I have done about display port or even hdmi as I still use dvi
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Wow, thank goodness my monitor supports both amd and nvidia cards. 
im thinking the same, i dont want gsync monitor and be stuck with nvidia and vice versa with freesync
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Yea but if it is Nvidia that refuse to adapt adaptive sync and being stubborn insisting on pushing Gsync onto its user base, some people will still insist adaptive sync is proprietary to AMD...
The sync feature implemented via the monitor's display port technology should work so long as GPU maker design their cards to work with it, so it's really in the hand of the GPU maker...and in this case- Nvidia.
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According to my tests the 480GB AMD R7 SSD performs similarly to the Samsung 850 256GB, which is a beast SSD. I own both so can compare performance directly.
Can't fault the memory either for the price, managed to tune it decently on stock volts.
Lies! It's a Gen2 drive chap. Not as quick as sturdy old 840 Pros
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Yep true.
I'd imagine it's only a matter of time till Intel are supporting it too. Honestly I still have no idea why nVidia made GSync given they are part of VESA and knew about the impending arrival of adaptive sync - they could easily have had their drivers all ready to go and avoided the bad PR of 'you can get what AMD offer from us too, but have to pay extra for it'.
Or, rather, as an interim solution I can see that it gave them a time advantage, but I've no idea why they don't also support adaptive sync - that would have been a win/win I feel. The GSync added cost wasn't so large that it's any different to any other early adopters tax so existing customers don't lose out. It would impose a maintenance cost though making sure that GSync keeps working as intended for a reasonable period while also supporting the standard.
Edit: To be clear, adaptive sync predates gsync significantly - on laptops. On desktops it may be that gsync was conceived before adaptive sync on desktop, hard to say, (and if so, and if it was this that triggered adaptive sync to come to desktop, then great! Well done nVidia, awesome idea) but certainly VESA were talking about it well before GSync became a reality. Perhaps nVidia had invested enough in GSync by that stage that they wanted to follow through. However they already knew about adaptive sync since the inception of the mobile version - and as they have mobile GPUs they should have been working on driver level support years ago. No idea if they have released a compatible driver on mobile or not yet, someone else can answer that if they know - I've got an nVidia m-series GPU but have no clue if it can support it, my panel can't so it's of no use to me :'(
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Exactly this. It is a simple case of Nvidia pushing a non-standard proprietary solution when a perfectly usable and open solution is available. This would mean one single monitor would potentially work with all GPU vendors if they adopted the open standard. That will never be an option with Gsync. Some people refuse to look at what is good for ALL GPU consumers, all they see is their God Nvidia and immediately drop in worship.
Exactly this. It is a simple case of Nvidia pushing a non-standard proprietary solution when a perfectly usable and open solution is available. This would mean one single monitor would potentially work with all GPU vendors if they adopted the open standard. That will never be an option with Gsync. Some people refuse to look at what is good for ALL GPU consumers, all they see is their God Nvidia and immediately drop in worship.
Care to tell all the good little boys and girls about what desktop adaptive sync solutions were available, or even planned when GSync was launched?
Personally I think NV should adopt the standard now it is here, but you can thank NV for giving the industry a kick up the backside with their solution.
Also, grow up.
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Nice, now please hold on to that same logic, and convince those who insisting AMD is dividing the market with Mantle, rather than thanking it for inspiring MS to think about and implementing low-level access with dx12.
No wait...dx12 was going to bring low level access anyway, AMD was just bring a jerk deciding to jump ahead for bringing the feature early to its users base for free...they totally should done what Nvidia does be so kind enough to all their user base to let them have the chance to happily throwing money their way for having the new feature early
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Excellent and credible review and a very interesting article.
If by that you mean factually incorrect and providing no new information whatsoever, then yes.
Something from the article that I didn't pick up on before as I was hoping somebody else would:
"Because it's part of the DisplayPort standard decided upon by the VESA consortium, any monitor with a DisplayPort 1.2a input is compatible"
That's categorically not true. Adaptive-Sync is an optional extension of DP 1.2a and there are some DP 1.2a monitors out there that will not support it. I like that ASUS seems to be using the moniker 'DP 1.2a+' to describe monitors which include not only DP 1.2a but also support for Adaptive-Sync. I would like to see that adopted more broadly, to avoid confusion.
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Gsync does work differently to "Freesync"
Once both methods are out in the wild the better standard will naturally win out cost overall probably wont be a factor.
Gsync has the benefit of being out a while, so a little more mature and proven with more products out with it in. It also helps that it had the praise people in the graphics industry (John Carmack and Tim Sweeney for example) since Nvidia put people in front of the tech from early stage. While demo's of Freesycn have been quite thin on the ground and not as flexible as the nVidia ones at the same stage.
Once both methods are out in the wild the better standard will naturally win out cost overall probably wont be a factor.
Gsync has the benefit of being out a while, so a little more mature and proven with more products out with it in. It also helps that it had the praise people in the graphics industry (John Carmack and Tim Sweeney for example) since Nvidia put people in front of the tech from early stage. While demo's of Freesycn have been quite thin on the ground and not as flexible as the nVidia ones at the same stage.
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